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MSP 26 | Negotiation Skills

 

There are two kinds of negotiations that you will come across every day as a medical sales rep: external ones with your clients and internal ones with your team. In either case, you need to build an entire skillset around negotiations so you can always remain on top of your game. Danielle Hansen may not be a medical sales leader, or even a medical sales rep, but she is definitely someone everybody in our field should learn from in this respect. The Director of Global Strategic Sourcing at the medical device firm, Coloplast, Danielle possesses an extensive background in international supplier relationship management, contract manufacturing, negotiation, project management, and continuous improvement. Prior to Coloplast, she has handled various related roles in different companies, including Medtronic and Stryker. She now joins Samuel Gbadebo to talk about what goes on in her career and the biggest thing sales reps need to remember during negotiations – leverage.

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Negotiation Skills: The Mark Of An Effective Medical Sales Rep With Danielle Hansen

We have an interesting guest. First off, she is not a typical guest. She is an employee of a medical device company. She has not been a medical device sales rep and she is not necessarily a medical device sales leader either. She comes from the other side of things in strategic sourcing. She’s the Director of Global Strategic Sourcing of Coloplast. Her name is Danielle Hansen. The reason why it’s such a pleasure to have Danielle on the show and what we get into is because she deals a lot with negotiation.

She touches upon how important the value and the skillset of negotiation, and how deeply rooted it needs to be into the effective sales rep if they’re going to be that impactful sales professional that makes things happen. In addition to that, she’s had a very explosive career. She is the epitome of someone that looks for challenges, throws themselves into things they might not know how to do it all, and then finds a completely new avenue and direction to take things that take her to an entirely new height. I hope you enjoy the episode.

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Danielle, how are you doing?

I’m doing well, Samuel. How are you doing?

I’m fantastic. No complaints. We have with us, Danielle Hansen. She’s the Director of a medical technology company. Danielle, why don’t you tell us a little bit about who you are and what you do?

I’m the Director of Global Strategic Sourcing for Coloplast Interventional Urology. The Interventional Urology Division develops and produces market products for surgical treatment of our urological and gynecological disorders, such things as voiding dysfunctions, erectile dysfunction or urinary incontinence. From my standpoint, I’m working with our team of global suppliers, managing those relationships with our team, and making sure that we’re able to get good quality products in the hands of the sales representatives, and then ultimately their customers.

Can you describe for us what a day in the life of a Director of Global Strategic Sourcing looks like?

Especially in light of everything going on with COVID, our biggest focus is working with those suppliers. We’re making sure that we have established relationships with them and we’re able to get quality products, and firefight through any issues that we may have within the supply chain as a result of COVID.

From a sales rep perspective, why is it good for a sales rep to understand about what you do?

From our standpoint, we are constantly focused on making sure we have good quality products in the hands of our suppliers or our reps. We’re making sure that as we’re going forward, we do have that product on hand and then it’s available to customers. The job comes with a lot of different things and we’re constantly making sure that we’re mitigating risks. We’re focused on making sure that it is very much a quality offering for those sales reps so that they have a good product to sell.

Can you explain to me what’s Coloplast? How long have you been with them and everything you do?

I’ve been with Coloplast for a couple of years. The division that I’m part of is Interventional Urology. We’re an area of healthcare that people truly feel embarrassed about talking about. It’s different than a lot of other healthcare areas. People keep what’s going on with them in these areas to themselves, even sometimes hiding it from their spouses. One of our main product lines is an actual penile implant for men that can’t use Viagra or other options, or they don’t work for them. We have a pump up technology that helps them with their erectile dysfunction. It’s an area that is extremely untapped at this point because many men refuse to talk about the fact that these issues are occurring to anyone including their physicians. We also have catheter products and other products for uterine prolapse, slings and things that will hold them into place, and then kidney stone removal devices and stuff like that.

Is erectile dysfunction your latest market? Is that the newest product or is that the focus and everything else is ancillary?

We have two different sides of the business with interventional urology. One is on men’s and women’s health. The men’s health is erectile dysfunction and the penile implant. The women’s health is more on the uterine prolapse and splattering continents. We’ve got devices that are surgically implanted for both of those. We also have our single-use devices, which are devices that are not implantable, that support the businesses in these areas such as catheters and other things that may be utilized during surgery, and then also thereafter.

I’ve always been curious about erectile dysfunction products. Are those things that a man who no longer works down there can use for the rest of his life? Is something that needs to be redone every so many years? How does that work?

MSP 26 | Negotiation Skills
Negotiation Skills The biggest focus of global strategic sourcing is working with suppliers establishing relationship with them and ensuring a continuous supply of quality products

 

It’s different depending upon the man and how things take from a surgical standpoint. It’s at least ten years that they’re getting out of those products, sometimes longer. It’s dependent heavily upon the person and how it takes within their body.

Every case is different.

It very much depends too on where in their life they have it implanted. Some men have it implanted at twenty years old. There are others that are much later in their 70s or 80s and they’re getting it implanted at that point in time. That life cycle is heavily dependent upon the patients that it’s dealing with and where in that life cycle they’re utilizing it and having it implanted.

With the Director of Global Strategic Sourcing, what is that role? If you could shed some light on what it is that you do?

I have a team based in the United States and then I have two teams in France, one in Paris and one in Sarlat. Those teams and I are working to manage our supply base. I’m making sure that we have a quality supply of products at the right cost, negotiating and managing those relationships with the suppliers. That covers both indirect services and things that we need to run the manufacturing facilities as well as the direct side, which is going into our products.

What has it been like? You’ve been working from home for a while.

I’ve been working from home since about the March timeframe.

Before COVID, did you go into an office, or are you still able to work from home?

To be honest with you, we’ve got a lot of older white males that think you have to be butt in the seats in order to do your job. Most of them are still old-school thoughts that you can’t work from home and be successful. Some of that are changing because of COVID and it has thrown us in that direction, but it was not much of an option to work from home prior to that because of some of the philosophies that are held by some of the people in leadership. Because I am managing a supply base and the bulk of my team sits in France, most of my job is being a road warrior, jumping on a plane and go to different places. This job has changed quite a bit because prior to COVID, I’d be jumping all over Asia. I’d be in France and Africa. It’s been shut down, no travel since March, which has completely ceased the travel. I’m not seeing all these different places. I’m not running in and out of the airports. I’m not trying to catch a plane. I’m stationed at my desk.

How has that affected how you see work?

I have been in med device for many years in a lot of different companies. I’ve been at Medtronic, St. Jude Medical and Stryker. When I was at Stryker, I was entirely remote. I worked there for about a little over three and a half years. In those types of situations where you are in a remote, you get used to it. It’s very similar to a sales-type role. When you have to come back into the office after being out in the field, that’s a struggle.

You’ve been struggling is what you’re saying.

It’s a struggle especially when you have so many old thoughts on the only way you’re doing work is when your butt is in the chair. You can’t measure me based on that because on any given day, I’m talking to you at 3:00 in the morning in whatever time zone I’m in. That’s the unfortunate part that they’re not seeing and not understanding. My job is not an 8:00 to 5:00 job. It’s very much one that changes depending upon where I am in the world. I still have to be on point no matter where I am.

I find your career tracks fascinating. I want us to talk to you about how you made some of the decisions you’ve made. With your role now, how did you arrive there? Is that something that you knew you wanted to be in? Is that something you discovered?

It’s something I fell into more than anything. When I was an undergrad, I had a triple major in undergrad in Spanish, operations management, and legal studies and business. I was dead set on being an attorney. I had sat for the LSATs. I was ready to go. I was filling out my applications and everything. I was in my senior year. I might have as well interview for the hell of it to get some good practical experience. I wasn’t looking for an opportunity. I had an offer from 3M and Medtronic. When I graduated, the Enron scandals were huge. It was one of those things where I was looking at Medtronic, looking at the fact that they did have such a deeply rooted mission statement, and a real focus on the patients and who they served.

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It was one of those things where I stepped back and I said, “This is something that I need to consider more seriously.” I ended up taking a purchasing internship where I was supposed to be a buyer, the tactical purchase orders, reading the computer system, and issuing those orders. They brought me on. Day one, instead of having me doing any kind of buying, they threw me into contract negotiations. My boss at the time didn’t like anything to do with contracts or negotiations. He handed multi-million and billion-dollar contracts to the intern to negotiate. They threw me in.

Why did you go that direction instead of continuing with the law?

It was one of those things where I was working about 50 hours a week, putting myself through school, and at the same time getting a triple major. When I was going to fill out the forms, the essays and everything that come with that for law school admittance, I couldn’t get through it. I had a roadblock at the time and it was something that I could not fill out. I could have done it but it was not coming to me. It was an opportunity for me to see another path. It was supposed to be a three-month internship. How I looked at it is I could still go to law school after the internship, but at least I get the experience. When I jumped into that experience, I saw that I’m negotiating these agreements. I’m working on these contracts. I don’t have to have a JD in order to do so. I’m getting that practical experience and I’m utilizing my Spanish major as well with the suppliers that I’m negotiating in Spanish, Costa Rica, Nicaragua or Mexico. It enlightened a whole different area to me and one that I’ve stayed in ever since.

The opportunity that you discovered completely changed the trajectory that you had planned for. A textbook example of that.

It was a practical application. I would still be going to law school in the fall. That’s what I had planned. When I fell into the position, after two months, they offered me a full-time position. For an intern, usually, you get menial tasks, filling up coffee, doing stuff that doesn’t have an impact or isn’t important. I was translating letters from physicians from Spanish to English. I was negotiating agreements. I was able to work with the suppliers and found the negotiation area was something that I was passionate about.

Is this all at Medtronic?

Yes.

From Medtronic, you went to Honeywell. You had already got experienced. You discovered you loved what you were doing. You were given all this work as an intern that you weren’t expecting. You got good at it. Was that an active decision to go to Honeywell? What happened there?

When I was at Medtronic, I was focused on Lean Six Sigma towards the end of my career there with Medtronic. Medtronic did a great job of training people in Lean Six Sigma philosophy, but they didn’t do a good job of practicing it. It wasn’t ingrained in the culture. Honeywell, in contrast, is a company that has lived and breathed Lean Six Sigma throughout everything they do, including folder clicks in a computer system. It was a great opportunity to further that Green Belt training that I had, get more experience in a much more mature company, which Medtronic was. It did step outside of the med device, but it gave me an opportunity to see a more mature consumer electronic company as well as building products too.

How did you learn about that opportunity or that it was even something that you should consider?

I had someone that I had worked with in the past that had reached out to me about that opportunity.

The Lean Six Sigma, is that certification would you say is best applied to someone of your position?

There are few people in my position that have Lean Six Sigma in their background. The reason that I went down that path is it teaches you a problem-solving methodology. It walks you through how do you approach problems and how do you think about removing waste from systems to reduce lean time. There are a lot of good impacts that you can have in sourcing as well as the supply chain area to focus on leaning out the fulfillment streams, and making it easier for our customers to get the products that they need quicker.

The law was no longer but you were into something that you loved. You’re getting certifications with Lean Six Sigma, which doesn’t even directly apply to what you do, but you found it useful. You still went back to Harvard law school right after Honeywell. What prompted that?

Harvard Law was not my JD. It’s an executive certificate program. I took three different executive certificate programs through Harvard. It was focused on both leadership development and then also negotiations and their master negotiation course. It gave me an opportunity to delve deeper from a negotiation standpoint. Most of what I had at that point in time was experiential learning. I had not taken a course on negotiation. The three courses that I took at Harvard provided me an opportunity to further develop that and understand more about what are some additional tools or techniques that I could use that I didn’t already have the knowledge of. I practically applies those directly to what I was doing.

MSP 26 | Negotiation Skills
Negotiation Skills Theres a reason why the other party still talking to you What you have to focus in from a negotiation perspective is getting to what specifically that reason is because that is going to be your leverage

 

Would you say it made you much more effective?

Without a doubt. It was one of those things that take you back because when I went to the program, I was one of the youngest by about twenty years. The next closest people to me were twenty years older than I was. They are much more well-refined in their career path, where they were going and whatnot. I didn’t have even the credentials that they had, but being able to go through the program and being able to see what your success was. There were a lot of mathematical models that they brought in. You could see how you did compare to the rest of the class and your negotiation skills. That was something cool because I was negotiating with contract managers from the New York Knicks, who do all of the basketball contracts with the players and union negotiators. A guy from Los Angeles who was the head of their LAPD SWAT team doing hostage negotiations. It was one of those very humbling experiences where you get to see these are people that have been for the 30-plus years doing this as a career.

Would you say that a class like the Harvard Negotiation Masterclass you took, could that be especially useful to sales reps?

Without a doubt. That launched my career in an additional direction. After taking that Harvard negotiation course, that launched my career also into teaching. I’m also an adjunct professor in negotiation strategy at the University of St. Thomas. I’m doing stuff at St. Catherine’s University here as well. It focused on negotiation training and making sure that I’m driving in the MBA, but also in the executive education programs. I have my own consultancy where I do negotiation training for sales reps, regulatory personnel, who are responsible for negotiations and lobbying with the government. I’ve done negotiation training for buying teams, sourcing teams, also project managers that are also responsible for negotiating personnel, and how they’re going to get additional team members on their projects.

You’re full of surprises. You have a consultancy where you train in negotiation. Lightly describe how does negotiation training similar to what you offer helps improve the selling of a sales rep?

It’s a couple of things. From a sales perspective, people are approaching it thinking that they don’t have leverage. In most of the classes that I teach for sales reps and sales managers, their focus is always on the buying side. It is the one who holds all the cards. They have all the leverage. We have no leverage going into that. A sales rep focus is on maintaining that relationship, especially when I’m looking at heavily regulated type products because it’s not easy for them to continue to switch. In those types of situations, it’s walking those sales reps through what specifically is it that they have? What is the reason that the other party is still at the table? Often, those sales reps are overlooking the fact that the other side is still talking to them.

Time is of the essences and we all don’t have enough of it, but if the other side still talking to you, there’s a reason. What you have to focus on from a negotiation perspective is getting to what specifically is that reason that the other party is talking to you because that reason is going to be your leverage. If you can uncover what that specific lever is, from a challenger sales perspective, you will be able to challenge that sale. You’ll be able to push forward and figure out by asking questions, by using some of the problem-solving techniques to make sure that that other party sees how you are differentiated and not a commodity product.

Help me understand then because you went from a contract manufacturing, then you got your electives with the Harvard Law School, your executive education. You went to St. Jude Medical and then Stryker. The St. Jude Medical and the Stryker, what were those opportunities about? Why didn’t you leave Honeywell to go pursue those after your degree?

Honeywell decided to go through a layoff process. I was still newer in my career. At that point, I was essentially cheap labor. They had a lot of people that had been with the company for many years and they ended up using that as an opportunity to get rid of the people that were later on in their career. They kept me as one of the three that were left after laying off about 50 personnel. They had made the decision that they were going to outsource those supplier relationship manager positions to China, Mexico, and any other geographies that those suppliers were in. All of the suppliers that I was managing were in Mexico, Indonesia, China, and the writing was on the wall.

It was one of those things I could have waited until they ended up laying me off in future layoff, or I could do something about it. It was an opportunity for me. I had someone that reached out to me that I had worked with at Medtronic, who was trying to build a team at St. Jude Medical and asked if I would consider joining their team. It was perfect timing. It was one of those things instead of waiting around for that layoff to come, I decided to do something about it and got back into my device. It is the area that I’m truly passionate about because there are a few areas of careers where you can say you’re truly helping and making an impact in someone’s life with everything that you’re doing,

You jumped into St. Jude Medical and you were there for a year and then jumped into Stryker. Was that expanding the skillsets? What was going on?

Medtronic and St. Jude Medical were both on the cardiovascular side. I had quite a bit of experience with those technologies. The Stryker opportunity was one that a recruiter had reached out to me and they were looking to bring me out to their San Jose facility. At the time, the San Jose facility’s average age of the worker including upper management was 25. They were looking for someone who had been strengthened in new med device and could bring good processes, sourcing structured place that wasn’t there, and then help mentor and guide the people that were there. It was a good opportunity for me to help on the teaching side, help on the mentoring side, get me some more experience in an entirely different area because this was focused on endoscopy. As soon as I got promoted into more of a corporate development type role, I was focused across the entire company for Stryker including orthopedics, neurovascular, and a lot of other areas within that.

You went on to CPC. Is the experience with that Stryker role what turns you on to being an adjunct professor or were you headed there anyway?

I was never headed towards an adjunct professor. I had a teacher of mine that had reached out to me that I had been in contact with. She was one of my undergrad teachers. She had asked me to come and sit on an advisory board. That advisory board looked at what could have been done differently in the program in both undergrads, as well as my MBA with St. Thomas. What should they be offering that they’re not already offering to better enhance people’s skillsets for when they do go into the working world? The one thing that I spoke loudly about with the presidents there was that negotiation wasn’t offered. I had to go to Harvard in order to take a negotiation class, and I would’ve gone to St. Thomas if it would have been an offering. The president asked me right then and there, “Do you want to teach it?”

I had never taught before. I had done some things that Stryker and at my other companies, but I had never formally taught as an adjunct professor. He gave me an opportunity and he’s like, “I can tell that you’re passionate about this. I can tell that you’d be the person that would be great to start this here and to make sure that this program grows.” I’ve been successful in making that program grow. They had initially started me out with doing a summer term, and now I teach four times a year. I teach every single semester that they have. I have summer, fall, J-Term, and then I also have spring semester. Executive education has been added on, and I do that four times a year. Also, any custom courses where companies come to St. Thomas and say, “We’d like for an accelerated negotiation course, or we would like something custom-tailored to sales reps or to regulatory or whatever function that may be.” I put together that custom course and run it for them.

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How big are your classes?

For an MBA, I have classes up to 36 people in a course, and then for Executive Education, that’s between 10 and 15.

The next time I talk to you, you’re going to be having that negotiation division started at the University of St. Thomas.

I would love it, a new major.

You’re an adjunct professor. You’ve had all this experience and then finally, Director of Global Strategic Sourcing. You’ve been in that position for a few years. What’s that been like?

It’s been interesting. From Coloplast standpoint, it’s my first time working for a company that’s not headquartered here in the US. Working for a European company is different. The thought processes are different. The way that they run business is different. It’s been a good opportunity for me to see something through a different lens and different culture, and also work with an entirely different group from a med device standpoint. This is the first time I’ve had any experience with urology. Also, managing a team in France that comes with its own unique experiences.

Because you’ve been experienced, has what you’ve had to do in this role come naturally, or have you found yourself stretched and having to get innovative in how you do things?

For any good career step, you are being stretched in certain regards. You have to figure out what those regards are. In this particular situation, it’s stretching me in a lot of regards. It’s a great opportunity for me to delve more deeply into the urology market to understand that customer base, to understand some of the challenges that we have, being a urology company that a cardiovascular company does not have. We are elective procedures as opposed to life-saving or life-sustaining. It’s different in that regard. Also, having headquarters being in Denmark comes with its challenges because I think of everything from a lean perspective. In a lot of cases, having that European side of things takes longer to get some things done.

The fact that you guys are elective surgery focused, how has COVID affected this in that regard?

COVID is affecting us all, especially in any company that’s had elective procedures. At the end of the day, we’ve got a strong team in place and that team is focused on making sure that we’re coming out of this situation stronger than we were even before. That’s a strong testament to the leadership that we have in place, and to all of the people that are focused on making sure that our patients are getting what they need.

Danielle, you’ve done some incredible things in your career and I can listen to you all day talk about this. I’m going to take it back to a little bit of a negotiation. With negotiations, going back again to the sales rep, do you think negotiation not only helps the sales rep become more effective with customers but also with colleagues in leadership?

I do. When I’m focused on negotiation training, I’m not only focused on those external negotiations, which often when you go to negotiation training that’s all you get. It’s that external, the buyer versus seller. When I focus on negotiation training, it’s tailoring multiple different types of negotiations because we all are dealing with them on an everyday basis. Negotiation is truly more than a class in school. It truly is a life skill. Everything that we do when you think about it is truly a negotiation. Some of the most difficult negotiations are those internal negotiations because you’re dealing with those people on a daily basis. Things that have occurred, past projects that have occurred or things that have gone wrong from a personality standpoint, those all come into play. It exponentially increases the emotion that’s included in that process. Because of that, some of those internal negotiations are even more difficult than the external negotiations that many of us are trained upon.

You sound like you’re giving relationship advice.

Relationships are negotiation.

You’re spot on with that one and you’re right. I’m sure when you’re working with someone that’s worked with your time and time again, and they’ve seen your successes and failures, they have their own bias that you need to negotiate through to get something done productively. Many people I talk to have this plan from the very beginning, you included. What’s interesting about your choices and your career path is that it seems like you followed your plans, but you throw yourself into whatever opportunity you get. You allow yourself to see where else you can go. Is that accurate or would you say something else is at play?

MSP 26 | Negotiation Skills
Negotiation Skills Some of the most difficult negotiations are the internal ones because youre dealing with those people on a daily basis

 

I would say that’s 100% accurate. I thrive in challenging situations. I’m one of those people that if I don’t have a challenge, I start to get bored. I like situations where I feel proud. Because I haven’t done this or experienced it before, I don’t know if I’m going to be successful, but at the same time, I’m going to learn quite a bit and I’m going to do everything in my power to make sure that I am successful in whatever I’m doing. It gives me an opportunity through each of these different opportunities that are presented. It gives me an opportunity to further develop or enhance skillsets that I either didn’t have, or I had but it needed to refine.

With all this being said, it’s a good thing you didn’t go to law school because then you wouldn’t have had this career.

I think it is. I had looked at going to law school later on in my career when I was at Stryker. From my standpoint, there’s no return on investment, especially from the standpoint of I would essentially be starting from ground zero again.

You did get an MBA, didn’t you?

I did get my MBA. I got International Marketing.

Would you say that’s served you quite a bit?

It has. From an MBA perspective, it gave me a lot more respect for the marketing and sales side, especially on international playing fields. To understand those different cross-functional areas is extremely important. When I’m then negotiating with the sales functions or marketing functions, it also helps me to understand more of their viewpoint and where they’re coming from.

For anyone that has the opportunity to read to anything we’ve talked about, what would you share about getting into the medical sales industry and then navigating your career well, what information would like to share with anyone?

From navigating a career standpoint, you need to focus on not only having a plan but also being flexible. There are a lot of things that will change, especially as you’re going through the course of life. There are a lot of things that will be presented to you. There are a lot of challenges that you’ll come up against. The biggest thing is making sure you’re looking at it from a learning perspective, and make sure you understand that some of those challenging situations are going to feel uncomfortable during those times. At the end of the day, being able to push through them, being able to be successful through them, and have those key learning helps you greatly across the board as you’re growing your career.

Thank you for talking with me. It was great. We hope to catch up with you and talk to you soon.

It sounds good. I appreciate it.

Wasn’t that a fantastic episode? Danielle’s story is interesting because she found new opportunities, threw herself into them with everything she had, and discovered an entirely different direction to take things. It exposed her to even more opportunities. That’s not an uncommon theme. Almost every guest I have has something along those lines of being given something small and turn it into something significant. Danielle fits right up there at the top of the list. What I loved also is the negotiation, utilizing that leverage. As a sales rep, I’m sure you know how important it is to utilize leverage. With that being said, I don’t think all sales rep realize how much leverage they’re giving away believing that they don’t have any, and not securing an opportunity to influence a provider or someone on the provider staff to do something little different.

It was great to have you on the show. I’m glad you took the time to read this episode. If you’re someone out there that is looking for a position to get into medical device sales, pharmaceutical sales, genetic testing sales, molecular sales, then you need to go to EvolveYourSuccess.com and take the assessment. Let’s have a conversation about how the medical sales career builder can help you find and secure the position that you’re looking for. For those of you that want to improve your performance in the field, you’re a sales rep and you’re saying, “I know that I can bring my game up to a different level.” Visit the website and look for the Sales Builder program. Let’s have a conversation and talk about something that is designed to ramp up your performance. Get you some real clarity on where you want to take your career and have you taken leaps and bounds to get there. Thank you and make sure you tune in next time for some more amazing episodes.

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About Danielle Hansen

MSP 26 | Negotiation SkillsDanielle Hansen is a Director of Global Strategic Sourcing at Coloplast and Founder/President of the Coloplast Women’s Council. She is also an Adjunct Professor at the University of St. Thomas teaching in the MBA and Executive Education Programs. She possesses an extensive background in international supplier relationship management, contract manufacturing, negotiation, project management, and continuous improvement. She graduated Cum Laude with a triple major in Legal Studies in Business, Spanish, and Operations Management in 2004 from the University of St. Thomas. In 2009, she completed her MBA with focus in International Marketing also from the University of St. Thomas. She attended 3 Executive Education Courses from Harvard Law School including International Business Negotiations, Leadership & Negotiation, and Advanced Negotiation Master Class in 2013. In addition, she is certified as a Lean & Six Sigma Black Belt (LSSBB) & Certified Professional in Supply Management (CPSM). Through her tenure, she has earned numerous awards including the 2018 Mentor of the Year Award, 6 Star Financial Results Award, Employee of the Month, People’s Choice Award, and a Collaborative Inquiry Research Grant. Danielle continues to train on topics of negotiation, contract management, continuous improvement, supplier communication, conflict management, emotional intelligence, & strategy.

Danielle is passionate about improving people’s lives and has had the opportunity for the past 15 years to impact/improve people’s lives on a daily basis through ensuring continuity of quality supply of medical device, bio-pharmaceutical, and industrial industry product while at Coloplast, CPC, Stryker, St. Jude Medical, Honeywell, & Medtronic.

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I owe this opportunity to the Evolve Your Success Team and my mentor, Justin Lohman. Without them, this wouldn’t have been possible! Before enrolling in the Medical Sales Career Builder, I was not getting interviews where I was close to an offer. Being in my previous position for 17 years, I did not understand the nuances to interviewing today. After a few short months in the program, I learned how to best present myself in interviews. This program grew my confidence and I was quickly landed multiple interviews. 

Prior to Evolve Your Success, I was not active on LinkedIn or frequently listening to podcasts. Throughout the program, I learned the importance of online networking and familiarizing yourself with companies to land the job. Everyone around me understood my frustrations, listened to my viewpoints, and set me up with the tools to land my dream job! The process is foolproof and if you follow each step and work hard every day, you will succeed!

Do not leave your career to chance. Joining the Medical Sales Career Builder program was the best decision I’ve made and I recommend you do the same! Yes, there is sticker shock at the beginning, but every good thing comes at a price! The community you build and continue to build long after you graduate lasts a lifetime. You have so much to gain and absolutely nothing to lose if you show up and give it 100%! If I can do it, you can too!

Thank you again to the EYS team for making my dream come true!

Jeff Boswell

Mazor Clinical Consultant at

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Prior to transitioning into the medical device industry, I was a surgical tech for 9 years. I just want to thank Samuel and the Envolve Your Success community for assisting me in finally securing a medial device position. Before enrolling in the Medical Sales Career Builder, I couldn’t secure a position. I was able to land interviews on my own but couldn’t surpass other candidates in closing in on a role. With the help of Samuel and his team, I was able to breakthrough and stand above other candidates in the late stages of the interviewing process. Before, I was trying to network with other individuals, but the MSCB program taught me how to properly network with individuals and what the right approach was. Also, the MSCB program guided me in making my LinkedIn profile elite that would make me stand out to recruiters and other medical device professionals. The hesitation that I had that prevented me from signing up immediately was the financial commitment, but I knew I’d exhausted all my resources and options on my own in trying to secure a position. I knew I needed elite mentorship and guidance, and finally signing up for the MSCB program was the best investment I could ever make. When you consider what will happen to yourself as a leader and your revenue. It’s a no-brainer. You have so much to gain and absolutely nothing to lose if you show up 100% just as Samuel does! Thank you so much to the EYS team; my life and my career will never be the same!

Haley Moffatt

Territory Specialist at

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I’m thrilled to share that l have accepted a position with as a Territory Specialist. My background has been in nursing, everything from the operating room to bedside care. Taking this step into medical sales I had no idea where to start which is how I stumbled across Evolve Your Success.
 
With guidance from my incredible mentors at Evolve Your Success and Samuel, I was able to successfully make that transition. A huge thank you to my mentors Blake Williams, Blake Cagle, Kelsey Stark, Nidhi Joshi and Emma Sturtevant who offered me continuous support throughout this entire journey.

Before this, I barely knew where to start. This program gave me the tools I needed to create a foundation so that I could confidently make this transition between careers. Learning how to approach the interview process, understand different companies, and really tell my story was what set this program apart.

I’ll admit I was hesitant to invest in this program, however, now that I’ve done it I know that it was the right decision.

Thanks to Samuel and his team, my hard work, and God, I’m grateful to be moving forward in this new career. To anyone considering the leap, I can’t recommend EYS enough. This experience has been life changing, and I’m beyond excited to see what the future holds in this industry.

Benjamin Jarosch

Associate Clinical Representative at

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I am thrilled to announce I just stepped into a new role as an Associate Clinical Representative with . I want to thank the Medical Sales Career Builder (MSCB), this wouldn’t have been possible without them!

Previously I worked as an occupational therapist in an acute care setting. And before that, as a freelance photographer. I’ve made big career jumps before, but I wanted to be more intentional and prepared this time. In school, I remember learning about emerging technologies and the valuable role that OT’s can play in non-clinical spaces, given our unique training. However, I had no idea how to grow beyond the clinic. 

Before enrolling in the Medical Sales Career Builder program, I didn’t even know what I didn’t know. I was listening to podcasts, reading blog posts, and taking inconsistent shots in the dark for networking. My biggest hesitation to sign up for coaching was committing myself to a goal when I didn’t yet have a clear direction in mind. 

From listening to his podcasts, I knew Samuel had a track record of success and a wealth of connections to a broad range of people within the industry. That gave me the confidence to sign up and follow his direction. After going through the MSCB program, I can honestly say I wish I would have started sooner. 

The team at Evolve Your Success were phenomenal. They really listened to my story and took time to customize my strategy with me. Samuel and the mentors were instrumental in navigating me into device sales based on my preferences and background. They helped lay out action plans, including research, book lists, group discussions and training sessions, as well as specific networking strategies and mock interview preparation. Through the program I gained a new like minded community to collaborate with. The whole process could not have been more straightforward, and spelled out the exact steps I needed to take to get to where I am now. 

As with most things in life, you get out what you put in. I highly recommend investing in yourself by joining the Medical Sales Career Builder program. Their team will equip you with the knowledge, tools, and support to take control of your career and reach your goals. 

Thank you again to Evolve Your Success for making this career in medical sales a reality for me.

Kienn Cape

Therapy Consultant at

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I’m thrilled to share that I’ve just received a job offer with  , working with spinal cord stimulation for chronic pain! My background has been in nursing, everything from bedside care to travel nursing and IV clinic work; stepping into medical sales felt like uncharted territory. With guidance from Samuel and the incredible EYS team, I made it here. Huge thanks to mentors like Nidhi, Blake, Jules, Shawna, and Aaron, who supported me throughout this journey and are people who genuinely care. 

Before this, I barely knew where to start. I had friends in pharma sales but wasn’t familiar with the broader field of medical device sales or how many opportunities it offered. I wanted a way to continue helping patients in a new capacity, but I didn’t know how to approach the interview process, understand different companies, or even determine the right path within medical sales for my skills and goals.

EYS was like a roadmap, breaking down each step in a way that felt almost like solving a puzzle. They helped me recognize how my clinical background as an RN is full of transferable skills that are valuable in medical sales. The program also laid out the companies, roles, and key industry players that aligned with my experience and interests, giving me the knowledge and confidence to navigate interviews successfully.

I’ll admit, I hesitated initially. I wasn’t sure if EYS was legitimate. But after talking to April and connecting with people who had been through the program, I knew they were genuinely invested in helping professionals like me succeed. It’s something we laugh about now!

I’ve come to realize how many fulfilling, growth-oriented opportunities exist in this field, and EYS has been an incredible part of making this happen. Medical sales has so much to offer, from professional development to a work culture where people are genuinely happy and hard work is rewarded, something I hadn’t experienced as a nurse.

Thanks to EYS, my hard work, and God, I’m grateful to be moving forward in this new career. To anyone considering the leap, I can’t recommend EYS enough. This experience has been life changing, and I’m beyond excited to see what the future holds!

Lou Mirabello

Associate Spine Specialist  globus logo

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One year ago, I was a registered nurse in the Emergency Department here in Columbus, OH, when Samuel from Evolve Success reached out to me. His question was simple: “Have you ever considered a career in medical devices?” The truth was, I had.

At that time, I was three months into my journey trying to break into the medical device field. I had already “considered” that I no longer wanted to be a bedside nurse. I had also decided that enough was enough.

So, I declared that asking for help was not a sign of weakness. In fact, I firmly believe today that seeking the wisdom of others is the ultimate sign of strength.

And that’s exactly what I did. I joined Samuel’s team at Evolve Success for professional, high-quality mentorship. The result? Within three months of being equipped through his program, I did it—I got the job I had always dreamed of.

My advice to you? Take yourself seriously, or no one else will. I’ve found that the best way to show respect for myself is by valuing my time and investing in my dreams. I’ve learned to use my resources to rewrite my life’s script. It turns out that mentorship is a massive competitive advantage, and I’ve learned to leverage it as much as possible.

Here’s the reality for medical sales applicants: time will continue to pass, and some of you will settle—even though deep down you know you’re selling out on your professional dreams. Days will turn into weeks, weeks into months, and eventually years will slip away as your ambition of breaking into the medical device industry fades into distant thoughts.

I firmly believe that if you give Samuel a chance to guide you in your journey, not only will you not regret it, but soon you won’t be able to contain your excitement. You’ll realize that someone out there is in the same position you were just a short while ago—lost, with a dream to change their life and potential, but no direction. You’ll likely feel as I do now: eager to intervene and change someone else’s life. To pay it forward, just as someone did for you.

A sincere thank you to Samuel and the entire team at Evolve Success for your commitment to excellence and your continued investment in me.

Wishing all you medical device applicants the best.

Christine Mortenson

Medical Device Sales | New Business Development | Fierce Advocate for Positive Patient Outcomes | Hockey is my Happy Place

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I’m Now a Medical Territory Manager! I was a Regional Sales Representative for Long-Term Care pharmacy services. I had dreamed of getting into the med sales industry when I went into my career as a nurse, but the pharmacy sales job came to me, and I had just settled. Fortunately, I had a job shakeup that allowed me to determine that now was the time to pursue my original vision. I absolutely would not have this position without Samuel and the Evolve Your Success community. A lot of people my age would just stop trying, but EYS believed in me. EYS allowed me to break into the industry in 90-Days after I had been trying on my own for over two years! I had lots of recruiter screenings, and a few interviews with hiring managers, but I was never offered a position. Before EYS, I didn’t realize I was doing the bare minimum to get hired. I was applying everywhere, hoping to get noticed and waiting. It just wasn’t working! I didn’t know that that was not enough to compete in an industry this sought after, and against people who knew what I didn’t know about the process. Of course, I had to think hard before making a financial investment that’s reasonably substantial. But when I read the testimonials of real med sales reps on the site and learned that I wasn’t the only one taking a chance on my success, that EYS was sharing that risk also, I knew I had to do it. Though you might be able to cobble together some of the steps of getting a role in med sales from online research on your own, you just can’t know what you don’t know! The process of going through EYS presents this insider knowledge to the student, as well as giving you a progression of difficulty as you obtain the information, and you begin to master it. Not only that, but they give you access to amazing mentors and instructors, allow you to practice your interview skills, and teach you how to market yourself through social media and your own website! I cannot stress enough that EYS was the factor that made the difference in my successfully landing my dream job! The support, structure, and knowledge gained was invaluable! I would recommend this course to ANYONE looking to break into medical sales Thank you so much, EYS! This journey has been life changing and has resulted in the successful culmination of my 18-Year ambition!

Jerry Johnson

Territory Manager Endoscopy with 

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I highly recommend Samuel’s EYS Program! The program is pivotal for not only people who are trying to break into a medical device/pharma career, but also for those who are already in and simply want to enhance their experience and have more success! Samuel’s team is also stellar when it comes to attentiveness and efficiency. Everyone is on the same page and they are all extremely resourceful. If anyone is looking to break into this rewarding industry and you are experiencing difficulty, I encourage you to invest in yourself and give the EYS program the opportunity to get you there!

Ashley Stratton

Sports Medicine Associate Sales Rep | Doctor of Physical Therapy | Former DI Soccer

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I am happy to announce I have accepted a job offer with Sports Medicine in Phoenix! I extend so much gratitude to the Evolve Your Success group as I land this role and get ready to pursue my dream job. I am a Physical Therapist who became a little stuck in the profession due to issues with reimbursement and the difficulty for continued growth upwards. I turned to EYS to assist me in learning about the medical sales industry and gain knowledgable mentors who were able to help coach me in this process. I am a strong believer in surrounding yourself with the best and good things will happen. I did work hard, but with the support of my mentors and other colleagues going through a career change, I felt a sense of community and it confirmed my drive to get into this industry. I have already learned so much through the interview process, and feel very blessed to have had the resources this group provided. I have made lifelong friends and I cannot wait to continue to follow others’ journeys to pursue this incredible field. I urge you to give Evolve Your Success a try to gain mentorship, guidance, and support through any career transition.

Betsy Earnest

Pharmaceutical Sales Specialist

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I landed my dream role at and am excited to make a difference in patients’ lives as a Pharmaceutical Sales Specialist.

After working as a nurse for 13 years and running my own floral design business I wanted to find a way to blend my clinical background and entrepreneurial experience to pursue a fulfilling career in medical sales.

Before I enrolled in the Medical Sales Career Builder I was hesitant to begin my journey and wanted to make sure I could be as prepared as possible when working to break in. That’s where I found Samuel and the team at EYS. I began listening to medical sales podcasts and heard story after story of how EYS helped change lives. I knew that by joining the program I would have all the tools and coaching necessary to be successful in achieving my goals.

Going through the steps of the MCSB gave me the 30,000 foot view of what it takes to break into such a competitive industry. I knew I would come out on the other side changed and that it would set me apart from the many others looking to do the same. The team at EYS helped me gain the confidence it takes to interview, taught me how to clearly articulate my story, and easily translate how my background as a nurse and business owner can drive success into this industry.

Along with the incredible learning materials I was blown away by the enthusiasm and professionalism of all the mentors I was able to learn from. Not only did they offer guidance from their past experiences they tailored their support to my unique background and career aspirations. If you know you are looking to make a change and don’t want to make it alone, EYS gives you the team and the support you need to be successful. It takes time and a lot of hard work but in the end it pays off and you will be proud of the journey you made to get there!

Thank you again to such an incredible team that changed my life and so many others!

Aaron McCartney

Disrupting Healthcare using AI | RCM | SaaS

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I just landed an offer for my dream job at ! Though I truly enjoyed working as a physical therapist, I can’t wait to start my career in the sales world as a Clinical Account Executive.

This opportunity would not have been possible without Samuel, the team at EYS, and the MCSB program. Prior to enrolling with EYS, I was very frustrated with the lack of interviews and opportunities I was getting in the Medtech sales space. With the lessons learned from MCSB and guidance from the incredible team at EYS, I was empowered with the tools needed to earn interviews and thrive in the hiring process. Though I tried to acquire knowledge through podcasts, the straightforward and personalized EYS program was a major help to learn the ways of the sales world. Samuel, Blake, and my mentor Ryan provided encouragement and boosted my self-confidence that I can secure a job in the non-clinical space. The EYS program helped me translate my clinical skills/background as physical therapist into a salesperson in the medical field.

I highly recommend anyone who is passionate about making the transition into medical sales to join EYS. You will certainly not regret it, as it is truly a family that wants to see you succeed as much as you do!

Naz Momtaz

Medical Sales Representative

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I just landed a job offer from Becton Dickinson . I owe this opportunity to Samuel, the program, and the incredible mentors at EYS.

I am a former teacher with some sales experience, and switching to medical sales felt like an impossible leap. For about two years, I applied for medical sales jobs, but I didn’t even get a single interview. I tried applying directly on LinkedIn, but that didn’t work. I had heard about EYS, and did some research on it. The biggest criticism I heard was that if you know how to start a conversation with strangers, you shouldn’t have to pay for a program to get you a job. I tried networking on my own, but it didn’t get me anywhere.

After exhausting all other options, I decided to give EYS a try. From the moment I joined, I was enrolled in workshops and connected with a supportive team of medical sales reps who genuinely wanted me to succeed. I learned how to network effectively, who to reach out to, and how to make the right connections. The classes were excellent, and soon enough, I had a strong resume, much better industry knowledge, and a lot more confidence in my ability to land a medical sales job.

Within a month of joining, I started getting interviews! I couldn’t believe I was actually being seen by hiring people and seriously being considered for these jobs. But getting an interview is just the first step; you need to stand out. I did multiple mock interviews with EYS professionals and had phone conversations with my mentors before some of my interviews. I never felt alone in the process. Even when I received the job offer, I called one of my mentors right away and got some valuable advice on the next steps.

I’ve spoken with many medical sales professionals who have shared their own struggles in landing their first jobs. They’re all amazed at how quickly I received my offer and how it came about. I can honestly say I owe it 100% to EYS. If you’re in the same position I was in and are considering joining the program, don’t hesitate. It’s worth every penny, and the sooner you start, the sooner you’ll get a job offer.

Thank you EYS team for making a career in medical sales possible for me.

Alana B.

Sales Manager delivering solutions for sales and healthcare professionals to pursue passion for customers and patients! Sales Leader | Strategic Partner | Specialty Sales | Solution Selling | ACTIVATOR

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Samuel understands how to deliver expectations in your interview. He listens to your story to provide valuable solutions towards delivering your sales portfolio in an impactful and concise way.

He also quickly identifies any opportunities you may have to successfully exemplify your candidacy match for the role you are applying for.
His methodology boosted me with tools and confidence needed to access my dream job! I hope I will get more opportunities in the future to utilize his full program.

Katherine Thrasher, MBA

Digital Marketing | Solutions & Results Driven | Pharmaceutical Sales Expertise | People Connector | Relationship Manager

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Samuel is an excellent coach that helped me prepare for my pharmaceutical sales interviews. Coming from a non-pharmaceutical background, he utilized his previous sales experience and coaching tactics to help me become more prepared and more confident before meeting with hiring managers. As a result, I was offered a sales position within the pharmaceutical field! I highly recommend working with Samuel as a sales coach!

Julie Imbruno

Executive Vaccine Representative at Merck

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Samuel is one of the most authentic, well versed, inspirational coaches in the industry. I chanced upon Samuel’s LinkedIn profile and connected with him based on his industry knowledge. Upon our very 1st conversation I knew whole heartedly that he was the exact person I needed to help me make the career change I was looking for. He explained his program and what it had to offer. He also relayed what to expect within the 6 weeks we’d be specifically working on building this change together. The program he has in place works, because of its structure and methodology. He provides the most beneficial/honest feedback and support. He makes himself available for any and all questions. He has 1st hand working knowledge and experience of & within the industry and how to become exquisitely prepared for a career change into medical/pharmaceutical sales. Most importantly what his programming offers and the steps taken to ensure personal success(es) are worth every moment of time spent (resume building, interview preparation, presentation, etc.). Without Samuel’s guidance, support, knowledge, encouragement, honesty, and support I would still be looking for a pharmaceutical sales position. I feel blessed to have met him & had his guidance. “Once a client always a client”. Although the “career change” guidance and programming is no longer needed…I will remain his client for life (that’s guaranteed). Within the 6 short weeks of programming time…I went from barely understanding the industry to landing a dream position. Without a doubt…I will continue to access Samuel as my mentor and coach throughout my pharmaceutical sales career. I will reach out to him to assure my continued growth & success in this field. He’s the gentleman anyone needs if they are serious about making a career change. There is no doubt everyone succeeds with Samuel! To say that I am extremely grateful is an understatement.

Kelli D.

Licensed Medicare Direct Sales

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I decided to invest in Evolve Your Success sales coaching program to better my chances in pharmaceutical sales interview processes. Samuel delivered an excellent customer experience. Due to time constraints on my end, we had to do a “crash” course and the information and tools I received was still invaluable. The passion and knowledge that he integrated into the consults, was everything that I needed to boost my confidence, through proper preparation and key tools for successful interviewing in this very specific niche market. Receiving recorded videos of each training session was especially helpful to be able to be fully present during the session and not have to worry if I missed taking notes on some small but integral piece of information.

I highly recommend this program for any person interested in investing in their own success in sales. If you want better outcomes you must exercise your 5 P’s: Proper Preparation Prevents Poor Performance. Samuel will go above and beyond to help those who are serious about being prepared for success! I have already raved to my colleagues about the evolve your success programs and they all saw first hand how I was positively impacted toward greater results in my sales career!

I was willing to support this new business because I saw the passion behind it. And what I received was a first rate sales program. I am better personally and professionally for it, and you can be too. Invest in your now and reap the fruits forever. 2020 is a great year to start to Evolve Your Success for the decade ahead!

Jennifer Peckman-Rethman

Business Development Kansas City at Carl Zeiss Vision, Inc.

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When I scheduled my initial appointment with Samuel I wasn’t sure what to expect. In my case I needed advice and information to push through not being able to find the right sales job. Samuel tailors his program to your specific goals and puts in place a plan for success. His knowledge about medical sales is very impressive and through his sessions I felt much more confident and prepared to interview and negotiate and ultimately land 2 job offers. I highly recommend meeting with Samuel and start working towards your goals so you can land your dream job!

Stephanie Hernandez

B2B Sales. Medical sales. Financial services

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If you want to progress in your career, I highly recommend working with Samuel. Samuel is a well experienced individual who is passionate and dedicated to get the tools you need. Like many others, I was putting time on searching interview tips online and is nothing compared like the help you would receive from Samuel. He is a great coach who is also assertive to help follow your dream career path. Samuel has been a great help on giving advice and tools on what I needed to work on to land an opportunity I have been waiting for! Again I recommend his system for anybody that wants an opportunity in the medical sales industry!

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Crystal Sobande

Cardiology Account Manager II

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I highly recommend Samuel if you are looking to advance your career. Samuel is very professional, a great coach, and a fabulous mentor. I have learned so much through the Medical Career Builder Program. I honestly wouldn’t have been able to get to where I am in my career without him. I am very happy to say that within a few weeks of starting his program, I was able to land several interviews and have recently accepted an offer working my dream job for Medtronic.

Ryan Pfeiffer

Nuclear Medicine Flex Force & Clinical Education Specialist

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Samuel is a top-notch medical sales leader, mentor and entrepreneur who knows how to get results while teaching others how to develop their own skills to do the same. I started his program as a Nuclear Medicine Technologist and have been hired as a Clinical Specialist at Siemens Healthineers. He works extremely hard, is passionate about his mission and builds success not only in himself or his company, but in the people around him. I’ll recommend this guy any day.

Andrew Koehler

Surgical Robotics Program Builder 🦾 | Disruptive Technology | Clinical Sales | Capital Sales | Surgical Robotics

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Samuel is a joy to work with! I started the EYS program and we immediately focused in on what I had learned and Samuel was able to help me drill down to what I needed to work on and articulated how to strengthen the weak points in my armor. The Career Builder Program and the wealth of videos, personal 1-1 time, and behind the scenes interviews and workbooks helped me prepare to land the job of dreams.

Many thanks to Samuel and EYS for their help keeping the fire lit and pushing me to be my best

Eric Knotts

Senior Therapeutic Area Specialist (Neuro Psych), Bristol Myers Squibb (BMS)

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When I first embarked on my journey to break into the pharmaceutical sales industry, I feeling getting quite discouraged. I was doing everything I could to really stand out, but only finding that I was able to make it to the first and second round of interviews. A full year and a half passed, with many courses and certifications under my belt, when I finally came across the Medical Sales Podcast by EYS. From here, I heard about the Medical Sales Career Builder and immediately enrolled! I knew that I was doing something right to get me into the interviews, but something was still preventing me from getting past that final interview and this program would give me the perfect opportunity to find out exactly what that was. With Samuel’s coaching and after going through the relevant learning modules and workbooks, I was finally able to master my approach to interviews. It turns out this is exactly what I needed to finally break though and get me the job! I was ecstatic when I got the job offer and I couldn’t have done it without Samuel’s help and support . Thank you Samuel!

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Brett St Clair

Medical Device Sales Representative

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Enrolling in Samuel’s EYS Career Builder program was the best professional decision I have made to date. The knowledge I gained through the program was pivotal in making myself the candidate I desired to be. Beyond the coursework, lessons, calls (etc), the course encourages you to commit to something that is often overlooked – internal reflection. While developing your skillset, network, and overall knowledge of the industry is incredibly important. One of the biggest takeaways for me was taking what you had learned and connecting it to your “why.” Why do you want to work for this company? Why do you want to promote these products? Why is this your passion? This course isn’t structured to land you “just a job,” it is structured to help you land your dream job. Which I was able to accomplish.

I wish everyone had the opportunity to learn from an individual like Samuel. He is someone who I consider as a coach & mentor, but also as a friend. Samuel is relentlessly focused on developing talent while pushing you to grow through positive reinforcement. The EYS program has made an undeniable impact in my life, and for that I give Samuel and the program my respect and highest recommendation.

Tyler Ropp BSN, RN

Senior Mako Product Specialist at Stryker | Robotic Joint Replacement

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I just got a job offer from Stryker! I want to thank Samuel and the Medical Sales Career Builder Program. As an experienced nurse, I knew for quite some time I wanted to apply my experience in a different way within the medical device industry. Before I found the program, I had applied and interviewed for several jobs in the industry but never received an offer. I was doing my best to prepare on my own listening to podcasts, reviewing resources on LinkedIn, and reading up on any interview prep I could find. No matter what I had done, I wasn’t seeing the results I wanted and knew I needed to make a change. I found Samuels’ program on LinkedIn, and after contacting him he got back to me in less than an hour and we started working together just 3 days later. Samuel had a clear process and plan for helping me succeed. He quickly determined my weaknesses and we worked extensively to improve them. I was given the resources and support I needed to get me to where I am today with a job offer from Stryker! Working with Samuel was the best decision I have made in helping acquire my dream job. Thank you again to Samuel and the Career Builder Program!

Alana Rugg MS, CMR

Area Manager, Therapy Awareness. Northeast & Atlantic Coast

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I just got a job offer!!! Thanks to Samuel and the Evolve Your Success Community. Many thanks to the Medical Sales Career Builder, I wouldn’t have been able to do this without them. Before I discovered the program I wasn’t getting as many interviews as I was hoping despite the fact that I was applying to multiple job opportunities. I was searching for job opportunities in my area and just applying to them online and hoping someone would call me. I was becoming frustrated and knew I needed to do something different that would make me standout from other candidates, that’s when I discovered Evolve Your Success. I researched the program and spoke with others who were past clients of the program, I heard nothing but rave reviews. As soon as I joined and spoke with Samuel I knew I made the right decision. Going through the Medical Sales Career Builder program was simple and intuitive. It gave me an exact road map that lead me to my new position! Joining this program was the best decision I have ever made. It taught me so much, brought me out of my comfort zone, and it gave me the confidence I needed to win the job of my dreams. I highly suggest you join the program, do the work, because the skills you learn here and the connections you build are the best in the industry. Now that I have the dream job I’m looking forward to the future and signing up for the next phase of the program, Sales Builder. Thanks again Samuel because of you and the team my career is on the right track!

Judy Gbadebo, M.D.

Physician-Scientist | Medical Affairs | Clinical Education and Research Director at scPharmaceuticals

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I just got a job offer! Samuel’s EYS Medical Sales Career Builder Program was bar none one of the most valuable programs I have ever had the pleasure of joining. As a medical doctor transitioning from clinical medicine into the biopharmaceutical industry, I knew I needed a professional, goal-directed program to guide my way in this bold, new venture. Samuel’s program helped me learn how to leverage my experiences in a unique fashion within the biopharma industry. His program provides an overabundance of resources. From networking and resume writing to interviewing and negotiating, EYS was there at every step of the process. I never felt alone, and was constantly encouraged.

Thank you Samuel for your expertise and creation of the EYS Career Builder Program!

Katherine Stovall

Area Sales Manager

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I’m so glad I went through the Medical Sales Career Builder program! I received amazing guidance and coaching that gave me the exact steps I needed to land my new position. I would definitely recommend going through the program to anyone wanting to break into the industry like me!

Kristina Stewart

I connect prescribers with treatment solutions for Migraines and Tardive Dyskinesia

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After recently migrating to the US, I was eager to re-start my career in Pharmaceutical Sales. I quickly realized that I would need an experienced industry professional to guide me on this journey. Samuel and the EYS Career Builder Program exceeded my expectations. Having Samuel as my coach and mentor, enabled me to package my skills and experience in an effective and concise way that translated well in my interviews. I landed my new role! Thank you Samuel and your team for helping me realize my potential.

DH Williams

Specialty Brain Disease Sales Professional | Expertise Connection Builder| Fitness Educator

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I was having such a challenging time trying to land a dream job in the medical sales world. I thought I was doing everything I could to make this happen however after 5 months I became burnt out and unmotivated.

I wasn’t sure what I was going to do. I had reached out and connected with over 1000 connections on LinkedIn and to my surprise, I ran into someone from my hometown who had much success in the field. He and I discussed the issues I was having and that’s when he told me about Samuel and his program.

I decided to give the program a try and signed up on June 2nd of this year. Within hours and days of signing up, I became very fascinated with what I was learning. The program made so much sense and helped me to become lazer like focused on what I wasn’t doing earlier to become successful and what I could do to make this happen.

July 2nd of 2021 I received an offer!

Not only was it from the specific company I was most interested in but also, it was in the specific city I was wanting to move to – clear across the east to the west coast.

Samuel and his program have truly changed my life! With his guidance including a weekly online module, live class and guest speakers in the field – just to name a few – anyone can succeed to land the medical sales position job of their dream!

Nicholas Andrews

Territory Manager, Diabetes – Atlanta South / Proven Sales Professional with an Unwavering Commitment to the Service of Others.

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Samuel and his team at Evolve Your Success are game changers for professionals who are looking to present themselves at their best. I knew the competition for a career in the medical sales arena is immense and I needed to prepare myself to standout amongst all the other candidates vying for the same positions as I was. Sam will tell you I am very self aware of my strengths and weaknesses and I am very comfortable about speaking on what I know but not so much talking about myself. Enrolling in the Medical Sales Career Builder Program offered a holistic approach of how to represent my skills and attributes to hiring managers all awhile staying true to myself as I told my story. When you commit to the process the results happen, I landed a perfect role with the #1 medical device company in the world with no prior medical sales experience. You owe it to yourself and your career to join Evolve Your Success !!

Jeffrey Koshy

Supply Chain and Procurement Enthusiast | Sales Professional | Web Developer

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The journey of breaking into medical sales can be much longer and harder than many expect. One thing I learned from Samuel is that networking goes a long way into landing a job in medical sales. They also helped me get better at my interview skills and answer questions more genuinely.

Zachariah C.

Therapeutic Sales Specialist @ Leo Pharma

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Prior to enlisting Samuel’s services I was a “middle of the pack” rep at Primus. Not the worst, but far from the best. Up to that point I thought I had all of the tools necessary to get into President’s Club, but my results were showing otherwise.

The missing ingredient that Samuel has given me is fire. The fire to go out everyday and work my territory to its max. The fire to use my downtime at home to prep & prepare for the day ahead. Evolve You Success was the ignition I needed to help realize the kind of rep I am, what my unique personality brings to the table, and how to leverage the sum of these parts to the maximum.

When I began Samuel’s program in September of 2021 I was ranked 12th out of 40 reps, by the end of the year I finished in 6th place; comfortably in President’s Club. I also ended 1st nationally for our brand Promiseb which garnered me another award.

For those on the fence I strongly recommend making the investment. I have easily recouped the cost not only in the awards I won but the increased bonuses that have come along with it already.

Cody Mathis

Interventional Imaging, Siemens Healthineers | Technology Educator | Produ