Evolve Your Success

Neuromodulation isn’t just about stimulating nerves; it’s about awakening hope and transforming lives—one patient at a time. In this episode, Blake Williams takes us on a wild journey through his career as a Field Clinical Engineer (FCE), shedding light on the incredible impact of neuromodulation on the lives of patients. He provides a fascinating glimpse into what it takes to excel in the field of medical device sales, emphasizing the importance of authenticity and passion. His secret to success? The perfect blend of persistent dedication, a heartwarming touch of southern hospitality, and an innate understanding of the needs of both physicians and patients. Blake also reveals an exciting and groundbreaking development: closed-loop stimulation, a true game-changer in the world of spinal cord stimulation. Tune in and discover how one individual’s dedication can truly make a difference in the world of healthcare.

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What A Field Clinical Engineer In Neuromodulation Sales Does With Blake Williams

We have with us another special guest and he goes by the name of Blake Williams. Blake has a unique case because he was a cardiac, cath lab, critical care, and surgery nurse who got into medical sales. He decided to get into medical device sales within neuromodulation, worked his way up to field sales trainer, and then got to do research in neuromodulation. It was a pretty fast experience, but I’m not going to spoil it for you. It’s a fascinating journey he’s been on. You absolutely want to tune in to this episode. As always, we do our best to bring you guests who are doing things a little differently in the medical sales space. I do hope you enjoy this interview.

Blake, how are you doing?

Fantastic. Thank you for having me.

Why don’t you tell everybody who you are and what you do?

I am Blake Williams. Contrary to popular belief, I do live in Michigan. My accent throws everybody off with that, but I was born and raised in West Virginia, as I’m representing there. I am a field clinical engineer. That title doesn’t paint the full picture of what that is. There are people with different backgrounds on that. People come from sales, clinical, and engineers. A lot of different people are in that role.

Let’s talk about that. It’s funny because you are in Detroit. I’m like, “This guy does not sound like he comes from Detroit.” Thank you for clearing that up. How long have you been in Detroit?

I moved up right around 2011. I had a nursing job at the time in Ann Arbor at a veterans hospital there. I put in about twelve years of nursing. It’s a great career. I love working at the VA.

Nursing to engineering. We’ll get into the history. Before we do that, let’s establish exactly what you do. Your title is senior field clinical engineer. A lot of people tuning in to this episode have never been in medical sales. They’re clueless. Tell the audience what exactly that means in the context of a traditional medical sales role.

I’ve always been based on neuromodulation. Our field clinical engineers are what we call expert consultants in the field of neuromodulation. That is spinal cord stimulators, deep brain stimulators, and sacral neuromodulation within the company. It is my experience, but we deal with a lot of the new technology and the research side of things. We interact with sales, marketing, and medical affairs. We cover from a national standpoint. I got back from New York. I’ll go out to California. I travel the nation weekly to assist with procedures and health positions.

In your team and within neuromodulation, there is a sales rep and an engineer who you are. You work alongside an actual sales rep.

A lot of us, our background comes from sales. I was on the sales side in the sacral neuromodulation business prior to coming over to the field clinical engineer. They lacked those people because we know a lot about the technology and how to interact with physicians so they bring us over.

Talk to us a little bit about that. Is becoming a field clinical engineer an aspiration of a sales rep?

It can be. It was a promotion for me. It gives a lot of bandwidth to our leadership. I’ve been able to interact with leadership way more than when I was on solely the sales side. That’s the benefit.

The sales rep is selling, what are you doing? Walk us through your day-to-day.

That’s a load of questions. Our day-to-day varies so much. It would be impossible for me to pick one particular day. What we do is work with a lot of pre-market technology, and investigational devices, or hone in on what we already have that’s post-market and making it better. We do work with marketing because it is pre-marketing stuff and launch.

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Neuromodulation Sales What we do is we work with a lot of pre market technology investigational devices or honing in on what we already have thats post market and making it better

 

We work with sales in the aspect of finding out where the best areas for research are, like who are the top-end planning docs in whatever particular state. We assist with training the physicians. Because we are considered the expert consultants, we go and teach the physician about a new product or new implant technique, and work with them in that regard.

I’m sales rep Joe. I find Dr. B. I get Dr. B to utilize device A. I say, “Dr. B is using it but I think you can do a lot more with this. I’m going to call Blake. Blake is going to have a discussion with Dr. B to help him find new ways to use the therapy, maybe introduce devices that I don’t sell that he didn’t even know about.” Am I along the lines of what your role does?

There is a lot of it that the sales reps can help identify the best institutions. Everybody wants the University of Michigan Health Systems, the Cleveland Clinic, and the Mount Sinai. The great part about it is the sales reps work with the district sales manager. I work more with the regional sales managers and the district sales managers than I do with the sales reps. That was what I was mentioning as far as the bandwidth with leadership. We work more with the higher-up aspect of the leadership.

In your position, how is your performance measured?

Before when I was on the sales side for inner stem or sacral neuromodulation, that was salary and commission. This particular role is more of a salary with a myth and me trying to get to the plan. That’s over the whole company and based on how all of neuromodulation is doing. We’re putting out the research and we’re helping with these launches, then that is going to be how we’re measured. Everything is rolling along and the operating unit is exceeding. That’s how we’re measured.

Just so our audience can have complete context. If everything went right and you’re like, “I’m killing it.” “ Honestly, I already know you’re killing it. If you had an amazing quarter and you’re like, “This is the best,” what’s happening?

All of our data collection is great. The implants are going well. Our stats are running smoothly. FDA is happy with all of our results and our DMs are expressing that the physicians are happy with how everything is going. To be a PI or an investigator that we use on the research side, it’s a lot of work for physicians. They want to be involved in research because that’s how they tout it, but it takes a lot. That’s what an FCE job is, making everybody happy. It’s an easy task.

When you are a sales rep, I’m sure you have an amazing relationship with providers. When you got promoted, did someone come out and say, “Get me in. Remember what I got you? You watch your numbers in quarter one. Hook me up.” Is that happening?

Absolutely. There has been a paradigm shift. There has always been a separation of church and state from research and sales. “They can work together.” That’s what we said. Everybody wants what’s best for the patient. That’s the main thing. They want to make sure that the data is great and the appropriate data. We have had a shift with our new medical director of affairs. He has helped us be more forward-facing. We are able to have those relationships with physicians and talk to the people who want to be involved and navigate it. I have a lot of relationships with physicians, and you do have to say no to a couple because you can’t have everybody.

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Neuromodulation Sales Everybody wants whats best for the patient

 

You are a pretty hot commodity then when you’re walking into certain institutions.

You could be hated because you haven’t been able to get them what they want. For the most part, it’s great. Everybody understands. It’s the lay of the land, but it’s been great.

Let’s build out the full team. There’s you who’s the field clinical engineer. There’s a sales rep. Who else makes up the team?

In our direct team, there are thirteen FCE or Field Clinical Engineers. We have two managers. It’s such a broad team. It’s hard to divvy all that because we work with medical affairs and medical science liaisons. We have a lot of different people involved but the district sales managers are incredibly important to navigate the research and where we need it. In our particular team, I’m national, but we try to be somewhat regional. I look at it like a four-hour window. I do Michigan, Indiana, Ohio, Illinois, and eventually Toronto. There are some areas that we covered. We try to get a four-hour block in those districts’ sales managers.

You said you’re traveling every week.

We do. The bandwidth has been awesome. Due to some NDAs and stuff, I can’t disclose exactly who but we work with some smaller startup companies. That has been awesome and the CEO of these smaller startup companies learned so much about that. We travel all over the place.

If someone were to ask, “How much travel am I going to be doing if I step into a field clinical engineer role?” What would you say?

You’re looking at probably three overnights a week. It has ebbs and flows to it and sometimes it’s cool. The funny thing about me being from West Virginia is I grew up in a small town and we didn’t travel much. I came onto the team like I didn’t have an Uber app. I didn’t have data points. It’s been great to travel. It is a lot.

Do you have a family?

I do. I have two boys, 6 and 12 years old, and a wife.

You’re like me. I have 8 and 13. You’re three overnights a week with a 6 and 12 and a wife. How do you make it work?

In that last part, you said, “The wife.” She’s very instrumental in that. She was a nurse as well. After COVID, we made the decision for her to stay home for a bit to help with the kids and it makes a lot easier. When I got into the company being that my salary did increase from what I was making for a nurse, it allowed us to have her stay at home, which was huge. She manages all that, the sport, the house, and the kids. It’s a team effort.

She helps you make it work. Is she still in nursing or she’s not working?

Her dad is an engineer oddly enough, not the same engineer as I am. They own their own company. She helps out there about three days a week. It’s nice for her to make sure the kids get to school and all that.

Let’s think about one of our audience and they’re like, “This guy is doing the coolest stuff ever. How do I do that?” Can you have an ambition to go from outside the industry to field clinical engineer or do you need to become a sales at first or do you have to have a Nursing degree? What allows you to do what you do now?

It’s all open. We have people on our team who had zero sales experience prior to coming in. They were engineers by trade or they came from research like academic institutions. We do have a lot of sales reps on our team though. There are nurses. We have a chiropractor on our team. I was fortunate enough to be connected to the hiring manager and he brought me over. He gave me a call and said he’d love to have me on the team. I joined and the rest is history.

Let’s get into that history and then we’ll talk a little bit more about your role. Take us back. You’re in college. You want to become a nurse because you want to get a Nursing degree. You go to college and get a Nursing degree. You’re a nurse now. What happened next?

It’s funny. I tell people all the time. I graduated from West Virginia University with my Bachelor’s. At the time, West Virginia wasn’t paying a ton so I moved to Kentucky. I worked in Kentucky. My first nursing job was in a cardiac cath lab. In walks this guy who was super charismatic, carrying some donuts. I was like, “I like this dude. What is this guy doing?”

At the time before Abbott became what they are, he was a St. Jude rep. I was like, “I want to be that dude.” I’m in my mid-twenties at this point. That was my goal. I did my nursing. I did ICU, procedural cardiac cath lab, EP lab, and different things. I always kept on thinking, “Maybe I should jump into medical sales.” That’s where I wanted to be but it’s scary. In nursing, you always get a job. We don’t have to worry about that.

Medical sale is a lot more volatile. Straight out the gate, probably about four years ago, I interviewed with the company for a full-fledged sales rep within the pacemaker world. It’s very competitive. I made it all the way to my very last interview. It was me and one other guy. They ended up going with the other guy. He had experience. I had none in the sales world. It was the first time that I’ve ever been turned down for a job because nursing got them.

You are like, “This is easy. Whatever I want, I’ll get it.”

It was a little bit humbling.

Your ego is checked at that door.

I was like, “I’m not going to look for a little bit ” You know how they say it, “Sometimes blessings come when you least expect it.” I was working in the PACU at the VA hospital. A sales rep heard me talking with some patients and some of the physicians. She was like, “Have you ever thought about getting into the device industry?” I was like, “Yes.” She’s like, “I’m going to give my manager your name and you’ll expect the call.” You hear that sometimes and you don’t think anything is going to come about, but a week later I got a call. Liz Ezo was my manager and she was phenomenal. I owe a lot to her. She put a chance on me and the rest is history.

Tell us a little bit about what someone can expect. Give us what’s the salary range for neuromodulation and for what you do today.

Neuromodulation is future. We’re living in those sci-fi movies that we watched when we were kids. Everybody’s buying now. I wholeheartedly believe in neuromodulation, but the big thing is now it’s about a $5 billion industry. By 2027, they are projected to be about $10 billion. The money is there for neuromodulation. There are many companies, startups, and big conglomerates. From a salary standpoint, in the sales rep aspect, you’re going to make more money at the startups. That’s a fact. You see that a lot. You see people leave the larger companies and go there but there are more risks.

On the FCE side, you’re looking at anywhere between $130,000 to $200,000, depending on how much experience you have and what background you had prior to coming in. On the sales side, you’re looking at less from a salary standpoint and more on a commission basis. It was a similar range in the $200,000 when you’re on the sales and you’re hitting quota.

When I first came on, my partner was fantastic. She told me everything I knew about sales. What I want to tell people tuning in to this is sometimes, it’s who you fall into with. I was blessed with awesome leadership and great partners. For me, that’s what helped me to succeed. We were fresh in our quotas. We never missed the quota. There were eight quotas that we never missed. One time we were 177% of plan. It felt great.

We both moved on. I moved to the FCE role and then my partner Christie moved into the spine marketing world. I feel like there are two different kinds of people. There are people who love chasing that quota. For a while that can be fun and then you decide you want to do something else. That’s what led me to that FCE role.

Let’s talk about that. I’ve talked to a few people in neuromodulation on the show. What they’ve shared with me is that in deep brain stimulation, for example, you get to work with the providers and you get to work with the patients, to the point where you’re going to patient groups and you’re literally recruiting patients for procedures and surgery. Do you get to do some of that in your role or is it a different side of things?

In our role, we don’t have so much on the recruitment. The other teams are taking care of that. That is being funneled for us, but we do have complete engagement with the patients. A lot of people feel when someone leaves a job like nursing or whatever healthcare position they might have had that they won’t have any patient interaction anymore. I couldn’t disagree more. I have more of a global effect on that now. It’s been amazing for me. I meet some great patients and we can enhance their lives. We are responsible for that. It’s very beneficial.

If you can share please, give us one of the most impactful experiences you’ve had in this role where you got to see what your work did for a patient.

In our inner stem division, some OAB bladder disorders or things like that are things that people don’t think about being life-affecting, but they can be because they affect the confidence of the person or their ability to live a normal life. I had worked with a younger female patient. She was in her twenties and had held off on love and laughter as a result of that.

We had a physician who didn’t have the typical OABs for old ladies. She wanted to help out all her patients. We implanted a device on a younger female. About one year later, we stayed in touch and she told me how she was doing amazing and she was getting to the point where she was going to be getting married and kids were going to be in the future. This was all based on neuromodulation Those things are huge. You affected that person’s life and everybody’s life around them.

You got to see the impact on the quality of life. Just because there are many who have no idea what neuromodulation means, can you describe for us what a patient like her was experiencing and then what they were able to do after the procedure and the implant?

When you think of overactive bladder, I feel like a lot of people think of old ladies. They have leaking. You see all these ads for feminine pads.

Adult diapers.

We try to normalize wearing those and sometimes they have to. For them, it’s embarrassing and expensive to go through all of the diapers that they go through. There are a lot of different aspects of that. Sometimes medications work and sometimes do not. For our patient population, we can put in this device. They have a trial first. That’s the big thing. They test them and make sure that this is going to work. It’s a temporary trial. They check everything out, “Is this going to help that patient?” Once we get those results and it says yes, it’s going to help. Honestly, because it’s temporary, when we get ready to take out the temporary leads, some of the patients are like, “I don’t want that removed.”

It’s like, “Keep me on this.”

Once we implant that, it can drastically improve their life in multiple facets.

For a young woman, I can only imagine that is completely life-changing. That’s a beautiful story. This makes me wonder, are there therapies that are a provider or even you, thinking, “This would be beneficial if we could use it here and it hasn’t been done yet?” Are you in power to create a pathway for that? Do providers come to you and say, “We have to try this here.” How does that work? Does that even happen?

This is the benefit of startup companies. Startup companies can navigate the FDA and things of that nature a little quicker. There are tons of scientists and little think-tank companies that can come up with new indications for whatever device it may be. Physicians do have some input. They might be like, “There is a particular disorder, an autoimmune disease, or something of that nature that we think this could help. What can we do about that?” These smaller companies can look into that, take that, and run with it. I can’t share too much on some of the things. They do come up with potential ideas.

Is it mainly a large company that sees an opportunity and then looks for a startup that’s already in that space to see if there is a pathway?

There are startup companies that reach out to large companies. They are like, “We got a great idea. This is what we’re doing. What do you think?” I wish I was the guy who makes this but I’m not. It’s how it goes. It’s a two-way street. It can be very beneficial to the patient.

You’re coming back to do a follow-up episode when you get there. What are the barriers to access for new pathways? Is it a long arduous process? For example, when you want to use a new drug for a disease state, you’re looking at years. Even if it’s an obvious choice, you’re looking at years for the FDA to say, “Clinical trials have to be on point. The P value has to be significant enough.” You have a lot of stuff you have to make sure it’s in line before you even can tamper in the commercial market. Is it the same same thing with these devices or is there a little bit more flexibility because of how impactful these devices can be in certain conditions?

I wish it was the last part that you said. Honestly, it’s even more stringent because neuromodulation requires an implant. That’s going into the patient’s body. When they’re looking at research studies or the risk that it poses to the patient, then it’s very stringent. It’s very arduous. I understand that sometimes it does get exhausting and how much but they mean well. It’s a very long process.

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Neuromodulation Sales Neuromodulation requires an implant thats going into the patients body So when theyre looking at research studies or the risk that it poses to the patient then its very stringent the FDA

 

I can imagine. Share what you can. Do you know of any research that’s being done with neuromodulation and hyperhidrosis?

I would share something if I had something. That one, I don’t have much from my standpoint.

This is for context for the audience. What’s a unique space that people don’t think about neuromodulation playing a significant role in?

One of the biggest and newest, if you’ve seen the company, is for sleep apnea. There’s a company that is working on its neuromodulation. If anybody suffers from sleep apnea, they know that the Darth Vader mask that they have on is cumbersome. Nobody wants to wear it. They came up with one that stimulates the hypogloss on Earth. It’s something that’s newer that came out. Another big new thing is you’ll see various companies that are coming out with what we call closed-loop stimulation. That is the future of a lot of neuromodulation for various companies.

Talk to us about that. What’s close-loop?

The easiest way to describe it is when you think of current neuromodulation and stimulation, you hit a controller and increase the amplitude and the voltage. There are a lot of nuances to the patient doing it themselves, if they do too much, too little, or not enough. If you think about close-loop from an artificial intelligence standpoint, I relate it to that in real-time data. Your body responds to it and then the stimulation responds to it.

We were living in sci-fi movies now. I think about it like a thermostat in your house. You set a thermostat at a predetermined number like 70, which is what my wife likes. It’s too hot for me. The house gets 71. The thermostat and air conditioner kick on and pull it back down to the specified amount. It’s ebbing and flowing based on that preset number. With closed-loop stimulation for these companies that are working on that, let’s say spinal cord simulators. They look at the signals coming from the spinal cord, and the neuromodulation device recognizes it and adjusts accordingly. It’s massive to me.

We’re living in the future.

Star Trek and all these movies, it’s like that. It’s pretty amazing to be part of it.

As an engineer do you get to have input into some of the technologies that are currently being created that are out yet?

They do. We have some great people on our team who have a lot of experience in that. On our team of thirteen, I had the most public health for sacral neuromodulation. We had other people who had the most spinal cord stimulator training and other people with deep brain expertise. We have a wide array of us that all work together, but we do have input on those things whether it’s things coming to market and what we feel like a programmer should have on it from adjustment purposes or what the implant should look like based on our real-world pre-launch scenarios. We do have some input and it’s great to be part of that too.

What does it take to be a top-tier field clinical engineer, then go ahead and share with us what it takes to be a top-tier sales rep.

I know a lot of people might disagree. You get people that recommend reading The Challenger and all these things. To me, on both sides, authenticity is huge. You can have difficult conversations whether you are a soft-spoken individual or not. To me, in both fields, being on point, representing the company’s mission, and always putting the patients first are the ultimate aspects that the physicians will look at.

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To me, being authentic, showing up when you say you’re going to show up, and doing what you would want done for you for both. There are some people who are going to say, “Being an aggressive challenger person is what you have to be for sales.” I’m sure that works for some people. For me, my history of being a nurse and interacting with physicians in that regard and seeing them as the people that they are greatly benefited me. I feel the same way about my FCE role. I have the ability to relate to the physicians and patients. I tell everybody I got that Southern grandma living in me. I could be everybody’s friend. It’s served me well.

Neuromodulation is becoming a more popular space. I can sit here and say four years ago, the awareness of neuromodulation wasn’t where it is now. It’s amazing to me how explosive neuromodulation is becoming. You reinforce that belief when you’re saying that it’s going from a $5 billion industry to on its way to a $10 billion industry within the next many years. That’s huge.

I’ll share that a lot of the mystery of medical sales is being demystified. You have our show. When we started, there were 6 or 7 medical sales shows. Now, there are over 38. Quickly, people are putting the knowledge out. There’s a whole career behind the sales and the business of medicine and medical devices. When you think about neuromodulation and the flood of interest, what would you say to people who are like, “I would do anything to do what Blake is doing?” What would you say they need to bring to the table to even be considered in a space like this? Character and skills-wise, what should they be able to bring to the table?

Not just neuromodulation, sales in general, or anything you do in life passion is by far the absolute most important thing that there is. People will see that. If I got up here and during our talk, I was like, “Neuromodulation is cool,” your patients are not going to be excited about that. For me, passion is first and foremost.

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I preach in the office about authenticity because I think that is what has separated me from certain reps. We had competitors in our territory. People would say things and they wouldn’t follow through with it. I’m an authentic guy. What you see is what you get. Those two things are huge. I won’t dismiss that skill is important. There are ways to hone those skills ahead of time. I have conversations with people like you and Evolve Your Success. That content has been very beneficial in progressing my career.

The last thing I’ll say before we go to our lightning round is what I love about you is you seem like a man of intention. You have a mission to go out there and do something every day. Share with us whatever that is. What is your guiding light? Why is it that you are able to run a family, run this position, be a nurse, step into this space, and give it your best day in and day out? What is your driving force?

My dad. When I was thinking about this conversation, I was like, “If Samuel comes along with, ‘How did you get where you are? Who do you look up to?’ I already know the answer to that.” My dad was in sales when I was growing up, not medical devices. What’s funny is he probably put a ton of Oreos on all supermarket shelves. He worked for Nabisco at the time. When I was a kid, that was cool. It was fantastic, but he was always those things that I said.

He was very passionate. If you think that I’m a passionate high-energy guy, he’s me times infinity. He’s very much up there but he cares and he’s been authentic. In my whole life, that’s what I had seen. To me, that was important. That’s been my driving force to be a good dad. I take the late flat to get where I have to get to so I can pick up my kids from school or the red eye in the morning to make sure I get back in time for this and that. Funny enough, my dad checks on me every day. He gives me a Bible verse first thing in the morning and if I’m traveling, he’ll text me like, “Where are you at right now? Text me before you land.” He’s fantastic. Surrounding yourself with those people is incredibly important.

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It couldn’t be said better. That’s awesome. Thank you for sharing that with us. Are you ready for the lightning round?

I’ll do my best.

I’m going to ask you four questions. Are you ready?

Yes.

First question, what’s the best book you’ve read in the last six months?

If we’re going to be authentic, I’m not a huge reader.

Fair enough. How about an article?

If we’re looking at articles, I read any sports-related article there is out there, anything related to how these athletes came up from hard-knock lives. Those are my favorite articles. My mind runs a mile a minute. I’ll start a book and I’ll get halfway through and then I’m on to something else.

Maybe you’re a writer.

That could be it.

Best TV show or movie you’ve seen in the last six months.

My favorite TV show which has not been picked back up is Archive 81. I don’t know if you’ve ever heard of it.

I’ve never even heard of it. What is that?

It is fantastic. It’s like a psychological thriller. You got to take it out.

Where is this streaming?

Netflix

Is it a sci-fi?

It’s very much sci-fi. I don’t want to try to do it a disservice and explain it, but it is such a good show. There are gossip girls on all these things that it’s getting renewed. I can’t get a second season. Help me out, Netflix. That would be my top choice.

Hopefully, they catch this episode. What’s the best meal you’ve had in the last six months? It could be at a restaurant or at home.

My wife is a phenomenal cook. She can cook anything but I haven’t been home a lot for her to cook for me. I got back from New York. We were able to go out with one of our surgeons that was there. He’s from Rome and an awesome Italian guy. He took us to an Italian restaurant in New York. I’m not a fancy guy. I grew up in a very small town in West Virginia, but he was ordering all the legit stuff oxtail, and all these different things. It was good. We went to a place called Lupa which is the Greek mythology about she-wolf and Remus. It was phenomenal.

Lupa is next to Columbia University. Is there a recommended dish?

He was not a fan of their tiramisu. It was not correct. That was one thing. Each dish was like one word, but it meant something. One was meant, “Burn your finger,” because it was a lamb and known as hot. When you touch it, it burns.

This place has a lot of culture behind it.

I apologize to him because I cannot remember the name. That lamb dish was one of the best things I’ve ever had. It was delicious.

Last question. What’s the best experience you’ve had in the last six months?

It’s been everything that I’ve been doing with this job. I never thought I would be all these people that I’ve met. I keep on harping on it. The name of the town that I grew up in is Big Ugly, West Virginia. My parents didn’t go to college. When I was growing up, a lot of what you would end up with was Coleman’s or going to the military. It wasn’t a huge college push for that. My parents pushed me to go, but never in a million years that I think I’d be working for a big corporation and traveling like I’m traveling and meeting all these executive leadership people and the progressions. I’ve been doing a lot of that for the last six months. The FCE role, I’ve been in for about ten years, but it’s been great.

It’s been fantastic having you on the show. You are someone we will definitely be continuing to watch. Thank you for the time and keep doing your amazing work.

Thank you very much for letting me be part of this. It was a lot of fun. I look forward to seeing your next show.

That was Blake William. It’s a fascinating story. What I love about him, if you’ve tuned in to this episode, is as if he’s just getting started and already has the trajectory he’s had. It’s a wonderful thing to hear. Maybe you’re tuning in to this right now and you’re thinking to yourself, “I want to do what Blake is doing. I want to be in Blake’s space,” whether it be neuromodulation, being a field sales trainer in different space or field or whether it be joining a team that’s on the cutting edge of medical device sales, pharmaceutical sales, or any other type of medical sales.

What I want to ask you to do is to challenge yourself to take a step. Often in life, we have these ambitions and these things we want to do. Sometimes we write it down. Sometimes we tell friends and family. Sometimes we wake up and wish it would be every single morning. This time, I’m asking and I’m inviting you to take a step because we have a program called the Medical Sales Career Builder that was created to turn your wishes into a reality, your frustrations into success, and your ambitions into a career.

Stop wondering, thinking, dwelling, and contemplating, and take that step. Visit EvolveYourSuccess.com and select the application button for the Medical Sales Career Builder Program. Fill out that application, set up a time, and have a discussion with one of our account executives. Let us show you how we can take the dream you have right this very moment and make it your reality. As always, we do our best to bring you guests who are doing things a little bit differently in the medical sales space. Make sure you tune in next episode.

 

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About Blake Williams

MSP 161 | Neuromodulation SalesRaised in Big Ugly, West Virginia. Yes, that’s really the name of where I grew up. Attended West Virginia University and graduated magna cum laude. RN-BSN with 12 years of Critical Care, Cardiac Cath Lab, and Surgery. More recently, 3 years within Medtech, focusing on Neuromodulation sales and research. Hired to Medtronic in 2020 as a Therapy Support Specialist/TSS (also known as a Clinical Specialist in other operating units), which focused on sales and operating room case coverage. Quickly grew a territory with my partner, and progressed my career from a TSS, to a Senior TSS, to a Principal TSS and Field Sales Trainer in under 2 years. Due to networking within Medtronic, had the opportunity to move into Research and Development as a Neuromodulation Field Clinical Engineer. Cross trained across SCS, DBS, and SNM therapies, where we provide expert consultation, physician education, and data collection for ongoing research studies nationally.

 

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Christine Mortenson

Medical Device Sales | New Business Development | Fierce Advocate for Positive Patient Outcomes | Hockey is my Happy Place

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I’m Now a Medical Territory Manager! I was a Regional Sales Representative for Long-Term Care pharmacy services. I had dreamed of getting into the med sales industry when I went into my career as a nurse, but the pharmacy sales job came to me, and I had just settled. Fortunately, I had a job shakeup that allowed me to determine that now was the time to pursue my original vision. I absolutely would not have this position without Samuel and the Evolve Your Success community. A lot of people my age would just stop trying, but EYS believed in me. EYS allowed me to break into the industry in 90-Days after I had been trying on my own for over two years! I had lots of recruiter screenings, and a few interviews with hiring managers, but I was never offered a position. Before EYS, I didn’t realize I was doing the bare minimum to get hired. I was applying everywhere, hoping to get noticed and waiting. It just wasn’t working! I didn’t know that that was not enough to compete in an industry this sought after, and against people who knew what I didn’t know about the process. Of course, I had to think hard before making a financial investment that’s reasonably substantial. But when I read the testimonials of real med sales reps on the site and learned that I wasn’t the only one taking a chance on my success, that EYS was sharing that risk also, I knew I had to do it. Though you might be able to cobble together some of the steps of getting a role in med sales from online research on your own, you just can’t know what you don’t know! The process of going through EYS presents this insider knowledge to the student, as well as giving you a progression of difficulty as you obtain the information, and you begin to master it. Not only that, but they give you access to amazing mentors and instructors, allow you to practice your interview skills, and teach you how to market yourself through social media and your own website! I cannot stress enough that EYS was the factor that made the difference in my successfully landing my dream job! The support, structure, and knowledge gained was invaluable! I would recommend this course to ANYONE looking to break into medical sales Thank you so much, EYS! This journey has been life changing and has resulted in the successful culmination of my 18-Year ambition!

Jerry Johnson

Territory Manager Endoscopy with 

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I highly recommend Samuel’s EYS Program! The program is pivotal for not only people who are trying to break into a medical device/pharma career, but also for those who are already in and simply want to enhance their experience and have more success! Samuel’s team is also stellar when it comes to attentiveness and efficiency. Everyone is on the same page and they are all extremely resourceful. If anyone is looking to break into this rewarding industry and you are experiencing difficulty, I encourage you to invest in yourself and give the EYS program the opportunity to get you there!

Ashley Stratton

Sports Medicine Associate Sales Rep | Doctor of Physical Therapy | Former DI Soccer

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I am happy to announce I have accepted a job offer with Sports Medicine in Phoenix! I extend so much gratitude to the Evolve Your Success group as I land this role and get ready to pursue my dream job. I am a Physical Therapist who became a little stuck in the profession due to issues with reimbursement and the difficulty for continued growth upwards. I turned to EYS to assist me in learning about the medical sales industry and gain knowledgable mentors who were able to help coach me in this process. I am a strong believer in surrounding yourself with the best and good things will happen. I did work hard, but with the support of my mentors and other colleagues going through a career change, I felt a sense of community and it confirmed my drive to get into this industry. I have already learned so much through the interview process, and feel very blessed to have had the resources this group provided. I have made lifelong friends and I cannot wait to continue to follow others’ journeys to pursue this incredible field. I urge you to give Evolve Your Success a try to gain mentorship, guidance, and support through any career transition.

Betsy Earnest

Pharmaceutical Sales Specialist

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I landed my dream role at and am excited to make a difference in patients’ lives as a Pharmaceutical Sales Specialist.

After working as a nurse for 13 years and running my own floral design business I wanted to find a way to blend my clinical background and entrepreneurial experience to pursue a fulfilling career in medical sales.

Before I enrolled in the Medical Sales Career Builder I was hesitant to begin my journey and wanted to make sure I could be as prepared as possible when working to break in. That’s where I found Samuel and the team at EYS. I began listening to medical sales podcasts and heard story after story of how EYS helped change lives. I knew that by joining the program I would have all the tools and coaching necessary to be successful in achieving my goals.

Going through the steps of the MCSB gave me the 30,000 foot view of what it takes to break into such a competitive industry. I knew I would come out on the other side changed and that it would set me apart from the many others looking to do the same. The team at EYS helped me gain the confidence it takes to interview, taught me how to clearly articulate my story, and easily translate how my background as a nurse and business owner can drive success into this industry.

Along with the incredible learning materials I was blown away by the enthusiasm and professionalism of all the mentors I was able to learn from. Not only did they offer guidance from their past experiences they tailored their support to my unique background and career aspirations. If you know you are looking to make a change and don’t want to make it alone, EYS gives you the team and the support you need to be successful. It takes time and a lot of hard work but in the end it pays off and you will be proud of the journey you made to get there!

Thank you again to such an incredible team that changed my life and so many others!

Aaron McCartney

Disrupting Healthcare using AI | RCM | SaaS

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I just landed an offer for my dream job at ! Though I truly enjoyed working as a physical therapist, I can’t wait to start my career in the sales world as a Clinical Account Executive.

This opportunity would not have been possible without Samuel, the team at EYS, and the MCSB program. Prior to enrolling with EYS, I was very frustrated with the lack of interviews and opportunities I was getting in the Medtech sales space. With the lessons learned from MCSB and guidance from the incredible team at EYS, I was empowered with the tools needed to earn interviews and thrive in the hiring process. Though I tried to acquire knowledge through podcasts, the straightforward and personalized EYS program was a major help to learn the ways of the sales world. Samuel, Blake, and my mentor Ryan provided encouragement and boosted my self-confidence that I can secure a job in the non-clinical space. The EYS program helped me translate my clinical skills/background as physical therapist into a salesperson in the medical field.

I highly recommend anyone who is passionate about making the transition into medical sales to join EYS. You will certainly not regret it, as it is truly a family that wants to see you succeed as much as you do!

Naz Momtaz

Medical Sales Representative

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I just landed a job offer from Becton Dickinson . I owe this opportunity to Samuel, the program, and the incredible mentors at EYS.

I am a former teacher with some sales experience, and switching to medical sales felt like an impossible leap. For about two years, I applied for medical sales jobs, but I didn’t even get a single interview. I tried applying directly on LinkedIn, but that didn’t work. I had heard about EYS, and did some research on it. The biggest criticism I heard was that if you know how to start a conversation with strangers, you shouldn’t have to pay for a program to get you a job. I tried networking on my own, but it didn’t get me anywhere.

After exhausting all other options, I decided to give EYS a try. From the moment I joined, I was enrolled in workshops and connected with a supportive team of medical sales reps who genuinely wanted me to succeed. I learned how to network effectively, who to reach out to, and how to make the right connections. The classes were excellent, and soon enough, I had a strong resume, much better industry knowledge, and a lot more confidence in my ability to land a medical sales job.

Within a month of joining, I started getting interviews! I couldn’t believe I was actually being seen by hiring people and seriously being considered for these jobs. But getting an interview is just the first step; you need to stand out. I did multiple mock interviews with EYS professionals and had phone conversations with my mentors before some of my interviews. I never felt alone in the process. Even when I received the job offer, I called one of my mentors right away and got some valuable advice on the next steps.

I’ve spoken with many medical sales professionals who have shared their own struggles in landing their first jobs. They’re all amazed at how quickly I received my offer and how it came about. I can honestly say I owe it 100% to EYS. If you’re in the same position I was in and are considering joining the program, don’t hesitate. It’s worth every penny, and the sooner you start, the sooner you’ll get a job offer.

Thank you EYS team for making a career in medical sales possible for me.

Alana B.

Sales Manager delivering solutions for sales and healthcare professionals to pursue passion for customers and patients! Sales Leader | Strategic Partner | Specialty Sales | Solution Selling | ACTIVATOR

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Samuel understands how to deliver expectations in your interview. He listens to your story to provide valuable solutions towards delivering your sales portfolio in an impactful and concise way.

He also quickly identifies any opportunities you may have to successfully exemplify your candidacy match for the role you are applying for.
His methodology boosted me with tools and confidence needed to access my dream job! I hope I will get more opportunities in the future to utilize his full program.

Katherine Thrasher, MBA

Digital Marketing | Solutions & Results Driven | Pharmaceutical Sales Expertise | People Connector | Relationship Manager

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Samuel is an excellent coach that helped me prepare for my pharmaceutical sales interviews. Coming from a non-pharmaceutical background, he utilized his previous sales experience and coaching tactics to help me become more prepared and more confident before meeting with hiring managers. As a result, I was offered a sales position within the pharmaceutical field! I highly recommend working with Samuel as a sales coach!

Julie Imbruno

Executive Vaccine Representative at Merck

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Samuel is one of the most authentic, well versed, inspirational coaches in the industry. I chanced upon Samuel’s LinkedIn profile and connected with him based on his industry knowledge. Upon our very 1st conversation I knew whole heartedly that he was the exact person I needed to help me make the career change I was looking for. He explained his program and what it had to offer. He also relayed what to expect within the 6 weeks we’d be specifically working on building this change together. The program he has in place works, because of its structure and methodology. He provides the most beneficial/honest feedback and support. He makes himself available for any and all questions. He has 1st hand working knowledge and experience of & within the industry and how to become exquisitely prepared for a career change into medical/pharmaceutical sales. Most importantly what his programming offers and the steps taken to ensure personal success(es) are worth every moment of time spent (resume building, interview preparation, presentation, etc.). Without Samuel’s guidance, support, knowledge, encouragement, honesty, and support I would still be looking for a pharmaceutical sales position. I feel blessed to have met him & had his guidance. “Once a client always a client”. Although the “career change” guidance and programming is no longer needed…I will remain his client for life (that’s guaranteed). Within the 6 short weeks of programming time…I went from barely understanding the industry to landing a dream position. Without a doubt…I will continue to access Samuel as my mentor and coach throughout my pharmaceutical sales career. I will reach out to him to assure my continued growth & success in this field. He’s the gentleman anyone needs if they are serious about making a career change. There is no doubt everyone succeeds with Samuel! To say that I am extremely grateful is an understatement.

Kelli D.

Licensed Medicare Direct Sales

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I decided to invest in Evolve Your Success sales coaching program to better my chances in pharmaceutical sales interview processes. Samuel delivered an excellent customer experience. Due to time constraints on my end, we had to do a “crash” course and the information and tools I received was still invaluable. The passion and knowledge that he integrated into the consults, was everything that I needed to boost my confidence, through proper preparation and key tools for successful interviewing in this very specific niche market. Receiving recorded videos of each training session was especially helpful to be able to be fully present during the session and not have to worry if I missed taking notes on some small but integral piece of information.

I highly recommend this program for any person interested in investing in their own success in sales. If you want better outcomes you must exercise your 5 P’s: Proper Preparation Prevents Poor Performance. Samuel will go above and beyond to help those who are serious about being prepared for success! I have already raved to my colleagues about the evolve your success programs and they all saw first hand how I was positively impacted toward greater results in my sales career!

I was willing to support this new business because I saw the passion behind it. And what I received was a first rate sales program. I am better personally and professionally for it, and you can be too. Invest in your now and reap the fruits forever. 2020 is a great year to start to Evolve Your Success for the decade ahead!

Jennifer Peckman-Rethman

Business Development Kansas City at Carl Zeiss Vision, Inc.

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When I scheduled my initial appointment with Samuel I wasn’t sure what to expect. In my case I needed advice and information to push through not being able to find the right sales job. Samuel tailors his program to your specific goals and puts in place a plan for success. His knowledge about medical sales is very impressive and through his sessions I felt much more confident and prepared to interview and negotiate and ultimately land 2 job offers. I highly recommend meeting with Samuel and start working towards your goals so you can land your dream job!

Stephanie Hernandez

B2B Sales. Medical sales. Financial services

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If you want to progress in your career, I highly recommend working with Samuel. Samuel is a well experienced individual who is passionate and dedicated to get the tools you need. Like many others, I was putting time on searching interview tips online and is nothing compared like the help you would receive from Samuel. He is a great coach who is also assertive to help follow your dream career path. Samuel has been a great help on giving advice and tools on what I needed to work on to land an opportunity I have been waiting for! Again I recommend his system for anybody that wants an opportunity in the medical sales industry!

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Crystal Sobande

Cardiology Account Manager II

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I highly recommend Samuel if you are looking to advance your career. Samuel is very professional, a great coach, and a fabulous mentor. I have learned so much through the Medical Career Builder Program. I honestly wouldn’t have been able to get to where I am in my career without him. I am very happy to say that within a few weeks of starting his program, I was able to land several interviews and have recently accepted an offer working my dream job for Medtronic.

Ryan Pfeiffer

Nuclear Medicine Flex Force & Clinical Education Specialist

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Samuel is a top-notch medical sales leader, mentor and entrepreneur who knows how to get results while teaching others how to develop their own skills to do the same. I started his program as a Nuclear Medicine Technologist and have been hired as a Clinical Specialist at Siemens Healthineers. He works extremely hard, is passionate about his mission and builds success not only in himself or his company, but in the people around him. I’ll recommend this guy any day.

Andrew Koehler

Surgical Robotics Program Builder 🦾 | Disruptive Technology | Clinical Sales | Capital Sales | Surgical Robotics

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Samuel is a joy to work with! I started the EYS program and we immediately focused in on what I had learned and Samuel was able to help me drill down to what I needed to work on and articulated how to strengthen the weak points in my armor. The Career Builder Program and the wealth of videos, personal 1-1 time, and behind the scenes interviews and workbooks helped me prepare to land the job of dreams.

Many thanks to Samuel and EYS for their help keeping the fire lit and pushing me to be my best

Eric Knotts

Senior Therapeutic Area Specialist (Neuro Psych), Bristol Myers Squibb (BMS)

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When I first embarked on my journey to break into the pharmaceutical sales industry, I feeling getting quite discouraged. I was doing everything I could to really stand out, but only finding that I was able to make it to the first and second round of interviews. A full year and a half passed, with many courses and certifications under my belt, when I finally came across the Medical Sales Podcast by EYS. From here, I heard about the Medical Sales Career Builder and immediately enrolled! I knew that I was doing something right to get me into the interviews, but something was still preventing me from getting past that final interview and this program would give me the perfect opportunity to find out exactly what that was. With Samuel’s coaching and after going through the relevant learning modules and workbooks, I was finally able to master my approach to interviews. It turns out this is exactly what I needed to finally break though and get me the job! I was ecstatic when I got the job offer and I couldn’t have done it without Samuel’s help and support . Thank you Samuel!

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Brett St Clair

Medical Device Sales Representative

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Enrolling in Samuel’s EYS Career Builder program was the best professional decision I have made to date. The knowledge I gained through the program was pivotal in making myself the candidate I desired to be. Beyond the coursework, lessons, calls (etc), the course encourages you to commit to something that is often overlooked – internal reflection. While developing your skillset, network, and overall knowledge of the industry is incredibly important. One of the biggest takeaways for me was taking what you had learned and connecting it to your “why.” Why do you want to work for this company? Why do you want to promote these products? Why is this your passion? This course isn’t structured to land you “just a job,” it is structured to help you land your dream job. Which I was able to accomplish.

I wish everyone had the opportunity to learn from an individual like Samuel. He is someone who I consider as a coach & mentor, but also as a friend. Samuel is relentlessly focused on developing talent while pushing you to grow through positive reinforcement. The EYS program has made an undeniable impact in my life, and for that I give Samuel and the program my respect and highest recommendation.

Tyler Ropp BSN, RN

Senior Mako Product Specialist at Stryker | Robotic Joint Replacement

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I just got a job offer from Stryker! I want to thank Samuel and the Medical Sales Career Builder Program. As an experienced nurse, I knew for quite some time I wanted to apply my experience in a different way within the medical device industry. Before I found the program, I had applied and interviewed for several jobs in the industry but never received an offer. I was doing my best to prepare on my own listening to podcasts, reviewing resources on LinkedIn, and reading up on any interview prep I could find. No matter what I had done, I wasn’t seeing the results I wanted and knew I needed to make a change. I found Samuels’ program on LinkedIn, and after contacting him he got back to me in less than an hour and we started working together just 3 days later. Samuel had a clear process and plan for helping me succeed. He quickly determined my weaknesses and we worked extensively to improve them. I was given the resources and support I needed to get me to where I am today with a job offer from Stryker! Working with Samuel was the best decision I have made in helping acquire my dream job. Thank you again to Samuel and the Career Builder Program!

Alana Rugg MS, CMR

Area Manager, Therapy Awareness. Northeast & Atlantic Coast

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I just got a job offer!!! Thanks to Samuel and the Evolve Your Success Community. Many thanks to the Medical Sales Career Builder, I wouldn’t have been able to do this without them. Before I discovered the program I wasn’t getting as many interviews as I was hoping despite the fact that I was applying to multiple job opportunities. I was searching for job opportunities in my area and just applying to them online and hoping someone would call me. I was becoming frustrated and knew I needed to do something different that would make me standout from other candidates, that’s when I discovered Evolve Your Success. I researched the program and spoke with others who were past clients of the program, I heard nothing but rave reviews. As soon as I joined and spoke with Samuel I knew I made the right decision. Going through the Medical Sales Career Builder program was simple and intuitive. It gave me an exact road map that lead me to my new position! Joining this program was the best decision I have ever made. It taught me so much, brought me out of my comfort zone, and it gave me the confidence I needed to win the job of my dreams. I highly suggest you join the program, do the work, because the skills you learn here and the connections you build are the best in the industry. Now that I have the dream job I’m looking forward to the future and signing up for the next phase of the program, Sales Builder. Thanks again Samuel because of you and the team my career is on the right track!

Judy Gbadebo, M.D.

Physician-Scientist | Medical Affairs | Clinical Education and Research Director at scPharmaceuticals

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I just got a job offer! Samuel’s EYS Medical Sales Career Builder Program was bar none one of the most valuable programs I have ever had the pleasure of joining. As a medical doctor transitioning from clinical medicine into the biopharmaceutical industry, I knew I needed a professional, goal-directed program to guide my way in this bold, new venture. Samuel’s program helped me learn how to leverage my experiences in a unique fashion within the biopharma industry. His program provides an overabundance of resources. From networking and resume writing to interviewing and negotiating, EYS was there at every step of the process. I never felt alone, and was constantly encouraged.

Thank you Samuel for your expertise and creation of the EYS Career Builder Program!

Katherine Stovall

Area Sales Manager

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I’m so glad I went through the Medical Sales Career Builder program! I received amazing guidance and coaching that gave me the exact steps I needed to land my new position. I would definitely recommend going through the program to anyone wanting to break into the industry like me!

Kristina Stewart

I connect prescribers with treatment solutions for Migraines and Tardive Dyskinesia

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After recently migrating to the US, I was eager to re-start my career in Pharmaceutical Sales. I quickly realized that I would need an experienced industry professional to guide me on this journey. Samuel and the EYS Career Builder Program exceeded my expectations. Having Samuel as my coach and mentor, enabled me to package my skills and experience in an effective and concise way that translated well in my interviews. I landed my new role! Thank you Samuel and your team for helping me realize my potential.

DH Williams

Specialty Brain Disease Sales Professional | Expertise Connection Builder| Fitness Educator

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I was having such a challenging time trying to land a dream job in the medical sales world. I thought I was doing everything I could to make this happen however after 5 months I became burnt out and unmotivated.

I wasn’t sure what I was going to do. I had reached out and connected with over 1000 connections on LinkedIn and to my surprise, I ran into someone from my hometown who had much success in the field. He and I discussed the issues I was having and that’s when he told me about Samuel and his program.

I decided to give the program a try and signed up on June 2nd of this year. Within hours and days of signing up, I became very fascinated with what I was learning. The program made so much sense and helped me to become lazer like focused on what I wasn’t doing earlier to become successful and what I could do to make this happen.

July 2nd of 2021 I received an offer!

Not only was it from the specific company I was most interested in but also, it was in the specific city I was wanting to move to – clear across the east to the west coast.

Samuel and his program have truly changed my life! With his guidance including a weekly online module, live class and guest speakers in the field – just to name a few – anyone can succeed to land the medical sales position job of their dream!

Nicholas Andrews

Territory Manager, Diabetes – Atlanta South / Proven Sales Professional with an Unwavering Commitment to the Service of Others.

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Samuel and his team at Evolve Your Success are game changers for professionals who are looking to present themselves at their best. I knew the competition for a career in the medical sales arena is immense and I needed to prepare myself to standout amongst all the other candidates vying for the same positions as I was. Sam will tell you I am very self aware of my strengths and weaknesses and I am very comfortable about speaking on what I know but not so much talking about myself. Enrolling in the Medical Sales Career Builder Program offered a holistic approach of how to represent my skills and attributes to hiring managers all awhile staying true to myself as I told my story. When you commit to the process the results happen, I landed a perfect role with the #1 medical device company in the world with no prior medical sales experience. You owe it to yourself and your career to join Evolve Your Success !!

Jeffrey Koshy

Supply Chain and Procurement Enthusiast | Sales Professional | Web Developer

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The journey of breaking into medical sales can be much longer and harder than many expect. One thing I learned from Samuel is that networking goes a long way into landing a job in medical sales. They also helped me get better at my interview skills and answer questions more genuinely.

Zachariah C.

Therapeutic Sales Specialist @ Leo Pharma

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Prior to enlisting Samuel’s services I was a “middle of the pack” rep at Primus. Not the worst, but far from the best. Up to that point I thought I had all of the tools necessary to get into President’s Club, but my results were showing otherwise.

The missing ingredient that Samuel has given me is fire. The fire to go out everyday and work my territory to its max. The fire to use my downtime at home to prep & prepare for the day ahead. Evolve You Success was the ignition I needed to help realize the kind of rep I am, what my unique personality brings to the table, and how to leverage the sum of these parts to the maximum.

When I began Samuel’s program in September of 2021 I was ranked 12th out of 40 reps, by the end of the year I finished in 6th place; comfortably in President’s Club. I also ended 1st nationally for our brand Promiseb which garnered me another award.

For those on the fence I strongly recommend making the investment. I have easily recouped the cost not only in the awards I won but the increased bonuses that have come along with it already.

Cody Mathis

Interventional Imaging, Siemens Healthineers | Technology Educator | Product Specialist | Outdoor Enthusiast | Winemaker | Lets Connect!

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Samuel’s Evolve Your Success program has directly contributed to my personal success, and I recommend it to anyone who will listen.

Although I was an active scroller and 👍 on LinkedIn, I wasn’t a content creator and my profile read like a resume with an outdated picture. During Samuel’s coaching and education sessions, my profile was rebranded to look more appropriate to my audience as a sales professional. With Samuel’s help, I became comfortable engaging with others with comments and creating meaningful content.

The results are in! The EYS program has helped take my LinkedIn voice outside of my company and straight to my customers. Since starting EYS, my connections and followers have doubled and my profile views skyrocket with new content. One meaningful LinkedIn interaction recently has assisted in securing a multimillion-dollar project and I’m confident there will be more! 😊

Duston Harper

Teaching high performers to achieve prosperity through mindset and accountability

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Samuel is an amazing coach and mentor to me. He has elite experience in the medical device sales industry and I love seeing his passion helping people break into medical device. I personally worked with Samuel on personal branding for a period of over 6 months.

From start to finish, he was always very structured and held me accountable weekly. The Linkedin and mindset portion of his course really helped me. Even though I already have had success in sales at multiple industries, taking Samuel’s course helped me take things to the next level! Highly recommend others doing it.

Brad Osterberg

Sales Representative for Medtronic

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I just accepted a Clinical Specialist Pain Intervention Sales Rep job offer! I want to thank the Medical Sales Career Builder; utilizing this program gave me the exact edge I needed to get the position. I had attained many interviews for many different medical sales roles, but I could never get past the 1st one. I listening to podcasts, to gain any knowledge of getting into the industry. This is how I found Samuel’s program and The Medical Sales Podcast.

The second I found out what the program entailed I was ready to get started immediately. I knew it was going to be one of the most promising investments I’ve ever made. After 5 hard weeks of applying the necessary steps from the MSCB program, I succeeded in getting my dream job! The resources, social media learning and boosted confidence gave me exactly what I needed to land an interview quickly and promote my most authentic self and communicate my story and skill sets effectively to the recruiters and hiring managers.

Whether you have experience or not in the industry, the MSCB gives you the resources to feel confident, prepared and more than ready for every step of the interview process. In order to get the best outcome out of this and not short yourself, be sure to put your effort into it. I will definitely be utilizing the knowledge and confidence I have gained for the rest of my career. Thank you again to Samuel and the team for helping me find my confidence and changing my career trajectory!

Johan Arango

Analytical Filter & Diagnostic Specialty Materials / Lab Filtration Distribution

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I just accepted a Technical Sales Associate job offer! I want to thank the Medical Sales Career Builder; The MSCB program not only introduced me into the medical device industry but gave me in depth knowledge of what top companies want to see in me and how to be an asset to their organization.

I did not have sales experience and I had no idea what companies to look for, what industries to look into, or where to start to get a medical sales position. I also did not know how to interview or even get to the interview stage. One day I went on Spotify and found The Medical Sales Podcast, talked to the team and joined the program. In addition to getting every single resource a person needs to get a medical sales position, I also learned how to effectively tell my story and navigated the interview sequence.

The MSCB program not only comes with resources but you are also able to join a community of like-minded medical sales reps. The investment is totally worth it but it requires a constant effort. The knowledge and skills I have learned here are skills I will rely on for the rest of my sales career. I want to thank the MSCB team for all their time, support and life changing experience.

Nicole Casten

Clinical Outreach for Mental Health at Newport Healthcare

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Samuel is great in helping me navigate with the following areas in my new territory
Day to day routines with routing, High Communication/Dropping off different materials, Identifying a product per provider, Creating the Organization of what stage people are in and what resources to use to move them to the next stage. Rithm helped me streamline where I am going in my day Kolbe Assessment helped, to show me who I am, letting me know I can use fact finding to my benefit. Making me come up with how to handle objections. I would highly recommend this program to anyone looking to either get into medical sales or further their career and jumpstart

Devin Menges

Medical Device Rep – Spine

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When I started working in orthotics and prosthetics in December 2021, it was my first ever job in medical sales. I knew I needed to find resources to make me a more effective rep. I was spending a lot of time driving, so I searched for medical sales podcasts I could listen to between driving to my accounts. I found Samuel’s “Medical Sales Podcast,” and there was so much value in every episode. He advertised his “Evolve Your Success” program for people that wanted to break into medical sales or take their careers to the next level. After listening to a few episodes, this was a no-brainer for me. Working with Samuel over the last three months, I have become a more confident, efficient, and organized sales rep and developed a better mindset. I’ve developed key relationships with his help, which ultimately landed me an opportunity as a spine rep which he is now helping develop me in this new role. I can’t recommend Samuel enough. I’m grateful I found him and his podcast because It has genuinely evolved my success.

Sara Kate Harbarger

Medical Supplies Sales Representative

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I just accepted a Medical Supplies Sales Rep job offer! I want to thank the Medical Sales Career Builder; this wouldn’t have been possible without them! Before enrolling in the Medical Sales Career Builder, I knew I had skills that could translate into the Healthcare industry, but I didn’t know where to begin in terms of which field was the right fit for me. I had applied to several roles and could not get past the ATS and I did not know how to tell my story.

I was hesitant to invest into the MSCB program, but as I was networking with medical sales reps and discussing the podcasts I’d been listening to (Samuel’s Podcast) — I made the connection with one of the sales reps that recommended Samuel’s program, as he was using it to build is LinkedIn Brand.

After joining the MSCB program, it took just under 3 months to land my dream job! The biggest impact the program had during my job search was it held me accountable. The MSCB program is a well-oiled machine and it holds you accountable to take every step in order to be prepared & get your dream job. In addition, it gave me the resources and the feedback to communicate the right message to sales reps, recruiters & hiring managers to get the job.

If you’re interested in joining the Healthcare sales industry but don’t know where to start or if you’re not making any progress with securing interviews, this program is for you! If you put your all into the program, you’ll see the results — but you have to show up and be ready to do the work. There are many resources I used during the program that I will continue to reference and utilize to succeed & grow in my career as a sales rep. I’m incredibly thankful that I found this program and took the leap to make such a large career pivot — I couldn’t have done it without their resources and motivation!