Evolve Your Success

Building relationships is essential in the competitive field of medical device sales. It plays a crucial role in achieving success and turning innovation into life-saving accomplishments. In this episode, Dustin Schelling talks about endoscopy medical device sales. He explores the differences between endoscopy and other medical device sales fields, sharing how intimate relationship-building is essential for success. He also reveals the red hat revelation, the hidden signals of recognition in medical sales, and how they affect competition. Listen as Dustin opens up about his career evolution, the life-changing moments of the industry, and more. Tune in now!

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What Is Endoscopy Medical Device Sales With Dustin Schelling

In this episode, we have with us another special guest and he goes by the name of Dustin Schelling. He started as an Associate Sales Representative in the endoscopy space and has been an Endoscopy Sales Representative for years. In this conversation, you will learn all about endoscopy. What is it? How does it work? Why, if you’re interested, should you be in it? As always, we do our best to bring you innovative guests who are doing things differently in the medical sales space. I do hope you enjoy this interview.

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Dustin, how are we doing?

I’m doing good. How are you?

I am fantastic. Why don’t you tell everybody who you are and what you do?

Thanks for having me on the show. I’ve been in the med device industry for several years. It’s been an amazing journey and I’m happy to be here.

We have a lot of people reading who’ve never understood what endoscopy is and have never been in medical device sales. They just know of healthcare sales and they’re reading for the first time. Talk to us. What exactly is the definition of endoscopy medical devices?

Endoscopy in the realm that I work in is a little bit outside of the normal term. Endoscopy in general is GI. You’re thinking of flexible scopes and colonoscopies. We’re not doing a lot of that. From a broader scale, what it encompasses for us is minimally invasive surgery. For anything that’s done through a small incision, our technology has a camera and a scope that we use to be able to visualize what’s going on inside the body. Our surgeons are making less of an incision. It’s better healing and recovery for the patient. Endoscopy in general is a minimally invasive approach that provides a better solution and outcome for patients.

As an endoscopy rep, what’s the setup like? Do you have a team? Is there a clinical specialist involved? Do you have associate sales reps? Give us a little bit about what the makeup looks like.

The dynamic has been changing. It’s a fluid environment like everything else. From a holistic perspective, typically you’ve got a region of sales reps. Let’s take, for example, the Pacific Northwest. It covers 3 or 4 states. Within that, you’ve got, call it, 10 to 12 full-line reps that cover certain geographies and accounts. Depending on the territory size and the sheer amount of business that it does, some of those territories will have an associate sales rep to help cover and manage cases. Also, to learn and grow.

For years, we incorporated a model of a clinical sales rep. We have one per region typically. They cover a broader scale and have fewer products. They’re way more clinically skilled and in tune with what’s going on. They’re able to have deeper conversations than maybe your full-line reps would about some of the technology and clinical applications. They cover a broader range but that’s the makeup of our team at least. That is similar to a lot of companies throughout the industry.

When you highlight the difference between the associate sales reps, full-line sales reps, and clinical specialists, and I hate to say this but I’m going to say it, what are some of the typical backgrounds that people have in those roles? I hate to say it because I believe that, especially in 2023, they should no longer be this thing as typical. If you can demonstrate the skills that are transferable, do so.

I get that question all the time with people who are looking to break into the industry and people who are trying to get a foot in that device. What I’ve always said is it was very apparent to me when I first started trying to break into myself. This is true for a lot of companies in med devices. They’re going to hire the individual. They’re not going to hire the background necessarily.

If you want to be a software engineer, you better have a lot of technical skills to be able to accommodate software engineering. If you want to be a director of software, you better have tenure experience doing that. What’s unique and what I love about medical sales is our background and the diversity of people that can come into this job and do extremely well is so broad. We have teachers, physical therapists, Navy veterans, and people from all different backgrounds.

If you’re driven, personable, someone that people want to hang around with, fun, and have high integrity, that is going to attract most of these companies. Those are the people that you want to line up with anyway. That’s who you want as a teammate and who you want to associate yourself with. I’ve always been a firm believer that if you’re the smartest person in the room, you’re in the wrong room. You want to find yourself with people who are driven and motivated. That’s what’s cool.

That’s what attracts a lot of the talent that comes to these companies. If you feel like those are strengths that you have, the background of which you have in your career is a new point. If you can get in front of the right people, hiring managers, and connections within these med device companies, as long as you are you and your personality and strength shine through, that’s the secret sauce.

Let’s get into it a little bit and talk a little bit more about what you are selling in endoscopy. You mentioned full-line and minimally invasive. Give us some context of what those things mean.

Specifically, we sell both, disposable and capital. The easiest analogy I give to people is for the capital side, you buy a refrigerator. That’s cool. You’ve got the bones of what the equipment is. You need groceries, and those groceries come and go. Those are the disposal products that are being opened and used in every case.

We are a nice hybrid where our business is broken out at about 60-40 of the split between capital sales and disposable business. What we’re selling from a minimally invasive approach is the camera that allows the surgeon to see. That camera is connected to a scope that goes inside whatever incision the surgeon is making. If you tore your ACL, they would make 3 or 4 tiny holes in your knee. They would stick a camera in and they would be able to see through this lens and camera. They then watch it on a monitor. They’re operating with their hands down here and looking at a TV screen. That’s how they’re doing the procedure through these tiny little incisions.

That is extrapolated across all different types of surgical specialties between orthopedics, neurosurgery, ENT, Ear, Nose and Throat, general surgery, your lap chole cases, and appendectomies. It’s such a broad field, which is unique for our sales reps and clinical sales reps. We’re seeing the full breadth of surgical specialties within the operating room. Most of it is based on a minimally invasive approach when it comes to our platforms.

Talk to us a little bit about a day in the life of an endoscopy rep. You’re waking up at what time? You’re doing what? How much of the day is cases? How much of the day is selling? How does it all happen?

Everyone’s sales strategy is a little different. What’s unique and something that I’ve always appreciated is autonomy. As a sales rep, you’re given a quota. There’s not a lot of micromanaging. You got to go get it. Your number is, call it, $5 million so go find $5 million. You’re not getting a ton of someone over your shoulder or some pressure to get reports out to you every week or checking in. In January, you’re getting a quota. In December, where are you at? That’s how it works.

That is something that I love. Autonomy is such a beautiful thing. That can be abused. People take it for granted. They can become lazy or monotonous. It can be detrimental. If you miss a quarter, you’re going to get fired. The day in life is different for everyone based on the way that they want to go about their business and how they want to sell but I will say a typical day is something like cases are starting around 7:00 or 7:15.

My approach was always to get there early. 1) It’s because you want to be there first. You want to be there before your competitors are going to be there. Get there first. 2) What I loved about getting there in the morning was their day hasn’t started and the chaos hasn’t ensued yet. They’re chatty. They’re not consumed with providing care to a patient. Your ability to have conversations with them, get information, connect with them, or whatever your motive is for that day, you’re able to do that before cases start.

Once cases start, you’re in there, helping troubleshoot, and still trying to build relationships but the likelihood of catching somebody at the perfect time goes down. It’s easier to do it before cases start. That’s one of the things that I always prioritize in the morning. Mornings were key. The case is a broad spectrum. On average, cases go from 7 to 5. Do you need to be there for every case? Not necessarily but it’s dependent upon your territory, where you need to be, and where you want to be. That’s the autonomy piece. You’re making it on schedule.

There are times when you may be in a trial and are demoing the product but you’ve got to be there for those. There are no ifs, ands, or, buts about it. Within the endoscopy, most of the procedures are elective. They’re scheduled procedures. It’s not like 2:00 AM and you’re getting a phone call like, “I need you here right now.” Most of the time, people are familiar enough with the setup because they’ve been doing it for so long that they’re good on their own. That happens occasionally. It doesn’t not exist but for the most part, it’s scheduled cases. You’re able to control your schedule to some degree.

The day-to-day is variable. It’s never the same. You could be out of this glorious plan to be in all these cases and then an account calls an hour and a half away and their monitors work. The surgeons are set and you’re in the car or on the road. That’s something I love about it. I love the chaos a little bit. Maybe I’m crazy but it kept me on my toes and kept it interesting.

You take advantage of the mornings. How many cases would you say that the average endoscopy rep is doing a week?

Probably 3 to 4 cases a day so 20 to 25 cases a week.

Usually, they’re between what time frame? I know it can vary but what’s the general?

It’s 75.

When are you selling? One thing you said that I want the audience to get some context on is to get there before your competitors do. You’re trying to get to your surgery that you scheduled in which your product will be utilized but you’re still trying to get there before the competitors do. Explain to us what’s the dynamic there.

There’s a lot of fish in the sea. You got to be a shark. There are no ifs, ands, or, buts about it. If you aren’t, you’re going to get beat. I don’t know what the saying is, something about 80% of the jobs showing up. That’s so true. This will roll into your question about selling. The amount of times and opportunities that present themselves simply from being there is where most of the selling is done. You’re setting up meetings with surgeons and doing things to get your products in front of them, product fairs, flying to trade shows, X, Y, and Z.

All that stuff is incredibly impactful, especially the trade shows and conferences. Nurses and surgeons are different outside of the operating room than they are in the operating room. Those things are impactful. With that being said, 70% of my selling was done in the OR. Something happens. A problem arises. They’re having problems. I’ve got a solution to that problem. It’s a need that they sell.

The best representatives are the ones that can drive needs. They can figure out a way to create a need within the hospital and then leverage those opportunities once they come. “This competitive product is having a problem with the camera. It’s not giving them this function, X, Y, and Z.” You’re there. You hear it. You’re on the spot. You can respond. That is a subtle sell to get your product in front of them and that’s the majority of the way that most of them are.

It’s cool that you’re breaking this down because I don’t think this is talked about enough. We’ve talked about it a few times on this show but it’s not talked about enough for these people who have never done this and they want to be sales reps. Your competitor being in the room ready to undercut you at any moment is ever-present. Talk to us a little bit about what the scene looks like so we can give our audience some context.

In the hospital, they make reps wear red hats. Everyone else is wearing blue. You are called out immediately. Everyone wearing a red hat is a medical device or some medical professional or industry professional. It’s immediately known that you’re a vendor. There are no ifs, ands, or, buts about it. You have to sign in, get a red hat, and wear a sticker with all your credentials. The clowns are walking through the hallway. It’s easy to spot other reps that are in the room. There’s a bunch of different reps.

Take us for example. We’ve got 20-plus divisions and there are 20 reps in every account across the country. They’re not all on that account that same day. Maybe some cover bigger geographies. Take that time to all the different companies, there are a lot of reps in the hospital. You become acutely aware of who your biggest competitor is very quickly. If you don’t know who that is, you probably won’t be in this role for very long. You become very aware and keen to who is your competitor, who’s trying to take your business, who has the business, and who are you trying to take it from.

I grew up playing sports. That was so vital to my life. That competitive nature is something that has always been a huge draw for me in this industry. This is the closest thing to competitive sports there is. It is the most competitive and intense day-to-day. Someone’s coming after you or they’re coming after your table. You have to defend it or try and take theirs. It’s a fight.

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It’s a big kill.

I’m getting excited about it. It creates a fire. To me, it’s a motivator. You surround yourself with people who are successful. You’re trying to succeed and win. It’s so competitive but your competitors are everywhere and they’re always going to be. Try to outsmart them, be a better strategic player, and then show up.

I say wow because everything you’re saying I’ve heard but the way you’re saying it, you can see that as you pointed out, you got a passion behind this. The competitive nature that carried you in your youth when you were in sports is still very much alive. It’s why so many competitive people are drawn to medical sales. That’s cool to see. Highlighted that, even though you’ve been in endoscopy, you’ve had the opportunity to see a bunch of different fields and see how they are or maybe come into contact with reps that come from them so you know what’s going on. In the best way possible, how would you say endoscopy is different than other fields in medical device sales?

There’s a level of intimacy with medical device sales in general. You’re very close. The relationships are number one. You can be the best clinically developed rep in the country. You could have the most tenure and know the products better than anyone else. If you can’t build a relationship, that’s all for nothing. If you can build a relationship and you halfway know your products but you have got these people and you are super tight with them, the odds of you being able to get that sale are exponentially higher.

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All those things are incredibly important, being driven, being a product expert, and being able to build relationships. Relationships is the name of the game. A lot of sectors of med tech or med devices are intimate and relationships are always key but with this one, because you are so customer spacing and present every single day, the relationship piece and the intimacy of the job are so critically different in this role.

It’s not just the surgeon, nurse, or scrub tech. It’s not SPD, supply chain, or BioMed. It’s all of them. They all have a say and all have a different part of the process. The C-Suite is involved. Every single part of this organization and structure has a say and input on whether this $3 million capital deal is going to go through. You’re the one narrating the story. You’re getting the right people to say the right things and getting them to say it at the right time. You’re the orchestrator. You’ve got to be the one moving the pieces.

The beauty of this job is it’s intimate on so many levels. You start to understand the organizational structure of the hospital, all the key contributors, all the different facets, and what’s important to them. What’s important to the BioMed, CFO, and surgeon are all very different but you’ve got to be able to develop an intimate relationship with all of them to be able to have all of them singing the same song and get them to the end goal, which is getting the order and facility.

What would you say the average sales cycle for endoscopy sales is?

We’ve got two different types of buying cycles. You’ve got customers who are cash purchases where they buy it in cash and then typically want to use that equipment for longer periods. You’ve got teaching institutions and high academic facilities or just a facility that wants to be on the cutting edge of technology. Think about endoscopy technology. We typically launch a new camera or a new generational platform every 4 or 5 years. That’s standard across most medical device endoscopy-type portfolios where cameras are being innovated.

Think about it like an iPhone. You have an Apple iPhone and Galaxy. Every year, they’re coming out with something new. Ours is typically 4 to 5 based on every camera provider in the market, whether that’s via software or actual new hardware but you typically have two different buying cycles. You’ve got cash and they typically hold those for longer. You’ve got leases that are institutions that want to stay at the forefront. They want to be thought leaders and have the newest technology.

Those leases are typically 3 to 4 years. They’re getting the new gears that come out. It’s two different customer sets and every customer is different. It’s hard to pin one versus the other but you’ll get a sense of it once you get your feet on the ground and start to understand the customer’s buying cycle. In a nutshell, that’s what it looks like from a purchasing pattern and turnover on camera generations.

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For people who are reading and are excited by everything you’re sharing about what it means to be in endoscopy, real quickly, who is the person that should stay away from endoscopy and who’s the person that should be running to endoscopy?

I’ll start with the easier one, which is who should come to endoscopy. If you’re incredibly driven, competitive, loyal, trustworthy, have high integrity, and always want to do the right thing, that’s the baseline. That is the people we attract, want to run with, and surround ourselves with. That is the market of the type of individual or the type of talent we’re looking for.

That’s a standard.

Take it a step further. I want to be the best at whatever it is I’m doing. I want to make as much money as possible. That’s a real possibility. It can be life-changing. The other piece of this that is so critically important is truly having a passion for making a difference. That sounds cliché. People say that a lot but for me, what the technology does and what it helps surgeons identify or potentially mitigate surgical complications is a real profound difference maker.

Let’s level-set everyone. That’s your grandmother, sister, brother, or whoever it may be. If you can get that into a surgeon’s hands, the technology is preventing some catastrophic event from happening. That is a real difference-maker in people’s lives. You can get caught in the minutia of, “I got to hit a quota. I’ve got to get these metrics or go convert this account.” It’s easy to get lost in that but there are moments in time when you’re in the OR and something happens. You’ve prevented something. It’s because you enabled the surgeon to use this technology or whatever it may be. That is a profound moment.

I’ve had 4 or 5 of those throughout my career where it sits you down. That is making a difference. It’s the main reason why I wanted to go into this role or field. All those things combined are a secret sauce for someone that we’re trying to attract and would be successful in the role. If you’re reading this, it’s probably not attracting you if you’re lazy and entitled, and also if you just want a territory to make a lot of money. You think the med device is the secret sauce to make money and have this lifestyle. It’s been blown up to be a super lucrative industry. It can be but it does not come without hard work. You ask any of the top reps across the country and they’re working more than any of the reps that are making way less than them.

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Endoscopy Medical Device Sales Medical sales definitely does not come without hard work

 

Those are the facts of it.

It is not without hard work, dedication, and sacrifice. If you’re not willing to put in the time and effort and be dedicated to your craft and customers, it’s not the industry for you. If it’s a part-time thing and you just want to get into it to see if you can make money and say that you’ve done it, it’s not going to work. You’ve got to have a passion for it, have that competitive spirit, want to be the best, and want to make an impact.

I want to ask you a question. You’ve been responsible for hiring people. You’re responsible for helping manage the success of other people. When it comes to hiring someone, you’re evaluating them for their authenticity. They’re telling you, “Look, Dustin. I want to be on your team because I want to help people.” I love how you said everybody says that because that is the most said phrase for anyone interviewing for a medical sales position. What are candidates doing that makes that phrase real for you?

You can’t always tell by your resume but sometimes, a resume will give you indications like, “Are they volunteering? Have they had a place in their community? Were they in a fraternity and sorority, and did all these extra things on campus to be a part of something bigger than themselves?” It’s things that are near and dear to my heart. Take the Special Olympics, for example. That is something that I’ve always had a huge passion for and that is something so profound to me individually.

You look and try to understand, “Of all these people that say they want to make a difference, that’s everyone saying that. Give me an example of how you’re doing that.” It could be something that they’re doing for their brother or sister. “Give me selfless action that you’re providing to others that has no benefit to you.” That’s what I want to see. If that can shine through, those people can illustrate that point.

The biggest barrier to entry in this field, in my opinion, and others may not share this opinion, but entitlement is the dagger. If I feel that you’re entitled in any way, shape, or form, to me, that’s an immediate turn-off. I don’t think that behavior and personality traits will shine. It will not make you successful in this industry. If I can see people who are selfless, driven, humble, want to be the best, want to succeed, and want to make a difference and there’s action behind it, that is tangible. That’s something that I can run with and get a sense of.

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Endoscopy Medical Device Sales Entitled behavior will not make you successful in this industry

 

There are a couple of things I want to get into and then we’re going to wrap it up. Let’s go back to your beginnings. You graduated college. What did you think you were going to do?

I had no idea. I went to college at Iowa State. I switched my major four times. I had no clue what I was going to do. I ended up getting a degree in Kinesiology and Exercise Science. I wanted to go to a Master’s school for Athletic Training. I did a stint in Athletic Training at Iowa State. I toured schools. That was what I wanted to do.

What was your sport?

I didn’t play in college but I helped every sport with my little stint in Athletic Training. I knew I wanted to be something exercise-based. My degree was in Exercise Science. My backup plan was I want to try to either go to PT school, be a trainer, or something like that. Truthfully, if I’m being honest, I did the math. I was like, “What was it going to cost to do all of that in my passion about doing these to take on the financial burden of hundreds of thousands of dollars to be able to pursue that career path?”

For me, that wasn’t an option. For the other avenues, I was already a personal trainer on campus that I was state. I had a site visit to Life Time Fitness in Des Moines, Iowa. I met the manager there. I found out very quickly that that might be a cool fit for me. It’s something that I might be able to get into, like it, and make a difference in someone’s life. That’s always been something important to me. I did that right out of school.

I was a personal trainer for a year and had an amazing manager. I met some amazing people. My clients were the best. This is where it gets funny. I had no idea what I was going to do. I was a personal trainer but I was like, “I don’t want to be a personal trainer forever. I don’t know what this looks like but it’s fun and my clients are amazing.” My clients were like, “You shouldn’t be doing this. You should be doing something else. Let us help you.”

That’s a blessing the type of clients you have to share that message with you.

It was a small group with personal training clients. I would meet with them and get them to sign on for personal training. I’m still in contact with them and I have been working with them for several years. I was truly blessed with the people that I got to work with. They come from all different backgrounds. Some are younger. Some are older. I have clients who were 75 and clients who were 32. I had this small group of women that I loved to train. It’s a freaking blast. They made me laugh. One was like, “My friend, Allie, wants to set you up. You can try and get her to sign on a personal training.” I’m like, “It sounds great.” I met someone and the rest is history.

Give us the Cliffs Notes. The first time you said you’ve had 4 or 5 of these moments in your career, we got to get the first one. When you were doing the job, you were an endoscopy rep and you were like, “I am an endoscopy rep.”

The first one was probably the most prominent, too. It was crazy. I started the call by saying endoscopy is a minimally invasive approach. It’s a small incision. They’re doing it. It’s had better outcomes for the patient with better recovery times and less of a scar. There are a lot of benefits to minimally invasive surgery. However, we bought a platform that’s done in open surgery. Long story short, you can see blood flow in real-time which you can’t see with your naked eye. We bought this device that allows us to do it in open surgery as well.

In the first case that I had this moment, I was in the OR and they were doing a CABG. It’s a Coronary Artery Bypass Graft. It’s the heart. Someone’s had a heart attack and they’re creating a graft. They either take a vein from the leg or arm and create a new channel within the heart using one of those graphs. They go in and stitch it. I’m in the case. They’re looking to see if the blood is moving through this graft from the body to the heart because they stitched it all together.

The surgeon was like, “Let’s go.” They’re ready to close the patient. I’ve waited. It’s like a five-hour case. I’ve been in the operating room for five hours. They used it at the very end but forgot to use it. I was like, “I would love to see if we could still use this technology before you close up. He’s like, “Yeah, let’s do it.” He gets everything ready and gets the drug going. They inject the drug. They are shining the camera. Sure enough, the graft was kinked and so the blood flow was bouncing. It wasn’t going to the heart. That moment saved my can. They looked back at me. We would have closed this patient up. They would have gone to post-op and would have been back in this operating room.

You straight up saved a life.

It was a profound moment. It’s something that I’ll never forget. I’ve had several moments like that. It’s pretty humbling and grounding. Of all the work, hours, sacrifice, and things that this job does take from you, those are the things that make it worth it.

This is amazing. Thank you for sharing that story with us, Dustin. That is fantastic. We’re going to bring this to a close. Real quick though, tell us your family makeup. Are you a single man at all the time to make this work or do you have this family that you have mastered family and business? How do you make it all happen?

I have no family. Honestly, for every job I’ve taken, this isn’t the way that it has to be. I’ve moved for every role and promotion. I’ve been all over the map. I’ve been open to relocating. It doesn’t have to be that way. Opportunities have presented themselves and I’ve had the ability to move and take on new roles. That’s been exciting for me. It’s something that I haven’t shied away from, not that you have to do it that way.

It’s something to say though that if you want to start as an associate sales rep and within less than 10 years, get yourself to an executive level, you want to be willing to relocate every 2 years. That’s how those things happen in that shorter amount of time. That’s understood.

It can be done without it. The timeline is probably going to lengthen. If you are able to be fluid and flexible, the opportunities that will present themselves will be more fruitful. You’ll have more opportunities if you’re willing to relocate but it’s not to say that you can’t. A little easier in the timeline might speed up.

We’re going to wrap it up with a lightning round. The first question is, what is the best book you’ve read?

Never Split the Difference is probably the best book I’ve read. That’s a classic sales strategy book but I hadn’t read it for a long time. I reread it. It’s a killer. That book strategy is so good.

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Never Split the Difference Negotiating As If Your Life Depended On It

I’ve read that book twice but because of this mention, I’m going to read it one more time. That’s good. I like it. Favorite TV show or movie that you’ve seen.

I started Yellowstone and I have been cruising through it. I’m on Season 3.

You can’t get enough.

I know. It’s so good so I’ll say that.

Best meal you’ve had. We want the restaurant and the item. Where is it?

Guard and Grace but I’m changing it. Though, that’s a great restaurant. For those of you in Denver, that’s a fire spot but the actual winner is Born and Raised in San Diego.

What’s the dish?

They make this tomahawk steak. They’ve got this cheese broccolini. That’s fire. Their espresso martinis, they put them on dry ice, chuck the dry ice out, and then make the espresso martinis in the glass. It’s like a treat.

Here’s the last question. What’s the best experience you’ve had?

I have traveled all over the country in this job. I have been to some amazing locations. I’ve had the opportunity to launch a product within this organization, which was a unique experience. I honestly can’t say that I’m going to boil it to one but the opportunity to see all these new locations, go to all these places, experience the culture and all these different cities, and be a part of a tremendous product launch has been a unique experience and something I’ll never forget.

This has been fantastic. Thank you for sharing that with us. Dustin, in a short amount of time, you have made some amazing leaps and strides in your career. You had so much wisdom to share with us on endoscopy and working at a company that’s playing with the best of them. Thanks for the time. We can’t wait to see all the amazing things you do in the future.

Thank you. I appreciate you having me.

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That was Dustin Schelling. Great stuff. It’s critical for us to ensure that you, our wonderful audience, get clear on what it means to be in certain spaces. Endoscopy has been a growing space in popularity. A lot of companies are expanding their endoscopy sales forces so it’s only imperative that we bring you that knowledge you can understand. For those of you who read this episode and are thinking to yourself, “Endoscopy sales is where I want to be,” even if you’re in a different field and you’re thinking, “I’ve never considered that but I want to look into endoscopy,” you already know where I’m going to tell you to go.

Go to the website EvolveYourSuccess.com. Fill out an application, submit it, choose a time with one of our account executives, and let’s get you to where you want to be. We are here to help all those out there get into the profession of working within medical technology companies and improving your performance within them. As always, we do our best to bring you guests who are doing things differently in the medical sales space so make sure you tune in in the next episode.

 

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About Dustin Schelling

The Medical Sales Podcast | Dustin Schelling | Endoscopy Medical Device SalesDusting Schelling is a marketing manager for Stryker, and he has been in the med device industry for about seven years. He started as an Associate Sales Representative in the Endoscopy space and has also been an Endoscopy Sales Rep for over 4 years.

 

 

 

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Christine Mortenson

Medical Device Sales | New Business Development | Fierce Advocate for Positive Patient Outcomes | Hockey is my Happy Place

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I’m Now a Medical Territory Manager! I was a Regional Sales Representative for Long-Term Care pharmacy services. I had dreamed of getting into the med sales industry when I went into my career as a nurse, but the pharmacy sales job came to me, and I had just settled. Fortunately, I had a job shakeup that allowed me to determine that now was the time to pursue my original vision. I absolutely would not have this position without Samuel and the Evolve Your Success community. A lot of people my age would just stop trying, but EYS believed in me. EYS allowed me to break into the industry in 90-Days after I had been trying on my own for over two years! I had lots of recruiter screenings, and a few interviews with hiring managers, but I was never offered a position. Before EYS, I didn’t realize I was doing the bare minimum to get hired. I was applying everywhere, hoping to get noticed and waiting. It just wasn’t working! I didn’t know that that was not enough to compete in an industry this sought after, and against people who knew what I didn’t know about the process. Of course, I had to think hard before making a financial investment that’s reasonably substantial. But when I read the testimonials of real med sales reps on the site and learned that I wasn’t the only one taking a chance on my success, that EYS was sharing that risk also, I knew I had to do it. Though you might be able to cobble together some of the steps of getting a role in med sales from online research on your own, you just can’t know what you don’t know! The process of going through EYS presents this insider knowledge to the student, as well as giving you a progression of difficulty as you obtain the information, and you begin to master it. Not only that, but they give you access to amazing mentors and instructors, allow you to practice your interview skills, and teach you how to market yourself through social media and your own website! I cannot stress enough that EYS was the factor that made the difference in my successfully landing my dream job! The support, structure, and knowledge gained was invaluable! I would recommend this course to ANYONE looking to break into medical sales Thank you so much, EYS! This journey has been life changing and has resulted in the successful culmination of my 18-Year ambition!

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I highly recommend Samuel’s EYS Program! The program is pivotal for not only people who are trying to break into a medical device/pharma career, but also for those who are already in and simply want to enhance their experience and have more success! Samuel’s team is also stellar when it comes to attentiveness and efficiency. Everyone is on the same page and they are all extremely resourceful. If anyone is looking to break into this rewarding industry and you are experiencing difficulty, I encourage you to invest in yourself and give the EYS program the opportunity to get you there!

Ashley Stratton

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I am happy to announce I have accepted a job offer with Sports Medicine in Phoenix! I extend so much gratitude to the Evolve Your Success group as I land this role and get ready to pursue my dream job. I am a Physical Therapist who became a little stuck in the profession due to issues with reimbursement and the difficulty for continued growth upwards. I turned to EYS to assist me in learning about the medical sales industry and gain knowledgable mentors who were able to help coach me in this process. I am a strong believer in surrounding yourself with the best and good things will happen. I did work hard, but with the support of my mentors and other colleagues going through a career change, I felt a sense of community and it confirmed my drive to get into this industry. I have already learned so much through the interview process, and feel very blessed to have had the resources this group provided. I have made lifelong friends and I cannot wait to continue to follow others’ journeys to pursue this incredible field. I urge you to give Evolve Your Success a try to gain mentorship, guidance, and support through any career transition.

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I landed my dream role at and am excited to make a difference in patients’ lives as a Pharmaceutical Sales Specialist.

After working as a nurse for 13 years and running my own floral design business I wanted to find a way to blend my clinical background and entrepreneurial experience to pursue a fulfilling career in medical sales.

Before I enrolled in the Medical Sales Career Builder I was hesitant to begin my journey and wanted to make sure I could be as prepared as possible when working to break in. That’s where I found Samuel and the team at EYS. I began listening to medical sales podcasts and heard story after story of how EYS helped change lives. I knew that by joining the program I would have all the tools and coaching necessary to be successful in achieving my goals.

Going through the steps of the MCSB gave me the 30,000 foot view of what it takes to break into such a competitive industry. I knew I would come out on the other side changed and that it would set me apart from the many others looking to do the same. The team at EYS helped me gain the confidence it takes to interview, taught me how to clearly articulate my story, and easily translate how my background as a nurse and business owner can drive success into this industry.

Along with the incredible learning materials I was blown away by the enthusiasm and professionalism of all the mentors I was able to learn from. Not only did they offer guidance from their past experiences they tailored their support to my unique background and career aspirations. If you know you are looking to make a change and don’t want to make it alone, EYS gives you the team and the support you need to be successful. It takes time and a lot of hard work but in the end it pays off and you will be proud of the journey you made to get there!

Thank you again to such an incredible team that changed my life and so many others!

Aaron McCartney

Disrupting Healthcare using AI | RCM | SaaS

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I just landed an offer for my dream job at ! Though I truly enjoyed working as a physical therapist, I can’t wait to start my career in the sales world as a Clinical Account Executive.

This opportunity would not have been possible without Samuel, the team at EYS, and the MCSB program. Prior to enrolling with EYS, I was very frustrated with the lack of interviews and opportunities I was getting in the Medtech sales space. With the lessons learned from MCSB and guidance from the incredible team at EYS, I was empowered with the tools needed to earn interviews and thrive in the hiring process. Though I tried to acquire knowledge through podcasts, the straightforward and personalized EYS program was a major help to learn the ways of the sales world. Samuel, Blake, and my mentor Ryan provided encouragement and boosted my self-confidence that I can secure a job in the non-clinical space. The EYS program helped me translate my clinical skills/background as physical therapist into a salesperson in the medical field.

I highly recommend anyone who is passionate about making the transition into medical sales to join EYS. You will certainly not regret it, as it is truly a family that wants to see you succeed as much as you do!

Naz Momtaz

Medical Sales Representative

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I just landed a job offer from Becton Dickinson . I owe this opportunity to Samuel, the program, and the incredible mentors at EYS.

I am a former teacher with some sales experience, and switching to medical sales felt like an impossible leap. For about two years, I applied for medical sales jobs, but I didn’t even get a single interview. I tried applying directly on LinkedIn, but that didn’t work. I had heard about EYS, and did some research on it. The biggest criticism I heard was that if you know how to start a conversation with strangers, you shouldn’t have to pay for a program to get you a job. I tried networking on my own, but it didn’t get me anywhere.

After exhausting all other options, I decided to give EYS a try. From the moment I joined, I was enrolled in workshops and connected with a supportive team of medical sales reps who genuinely wanted me to succeed. I learned how to network effectively, who to reach out to, and how to make the right connections. The classes were excellent, and soon enough, I had a strong resume, much better industry knowledge, and a lot more confidence in my ability to land a medical sales job.

Within a month of joining, I started getting interviews! I couldn’t believe I was actually being seen by hiring people and seriously being considered for these jobs. But getting an interview is just the first step; you need to stand out. I did multiple mock interviews with EYS professionals and had phone conversations with my mentors before some of my interviews. I never felt alone in the process. Even when I received the job offer, I called one of my mentors right away and got some valuable advice on the next steps.

I’ve spoken with many medical sales professionals who have shared their own struggles in landing their first jobs. They’re all amazed at how quickly I received my offer and how it came about. I can honestly say I owe it 100% to EYS. If you’re in the same position I was in and are considering joining the program, don’t hesitate. It’s worth every penny, and the sooner you start, the sooner you’ll get a job offer.

Thank you EYS team for making a career in medical sales possible for me.

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Sales Manager delivering solutions for sales and healthcare professionals to pursue passion for customers and patients! Sales Leader | Strategic Partner | Specialty Sales | Solution Selling | ACTIVATOR

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Samuel understands how to deliver expectations in your interview. He listens to your story to provide valuable solutions towards delivering your sales portfolio in an impactful and concise way.

He also quickly identifies any opportunities you may have to successfully exemplify your candidacy match for the role you are applying for.
His methodology boosted me with tools and confidence needed to access my dream job! I hope I will get more opportunities in the future to utilize his full program.

Katherine Thrasher, MBA

Digital Marketing | Solutions & Results Driven | Pharmaceutical Sales Expertise | People Connector | Relationship Manager

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Samuel is an excellent coach that helped me prepare for my pharmaceutical sales interviews. Coming from a non-pharmaceutical background, he utilized his previous sales experience and coaching tactics to help me become more prepared and more confident before meeting with hiring managers. As a result, I was offered a sales position within the pharmaceutical field! I highly recommend working with Samuel as a sales coach!

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Executive Vaccine Representative at Merck

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Samuel is one of the most authentic, well versed, inspirational coaches in the industry. I chanced upon Samuel’s LinkedIn profile and connected with him based on his industry knowledge. Upon our very 1st conversation I knew whole heartedly that he was the exact person I needed to help me make the career change I was looking for. He explained his program and what it had to offer. He also relayed what to expect within the 6 weeks we’d be specifically working on building this change together. The program he has in place works, because of its structure and methodology. He provides the most beneficial/honest feedback and support. He makes himself available for any and all questions. He has 1st hand working knowledge and experience of & within the industry and how to become exquisitely prepared for a career change into medical/pharmaceutical sales. Most importantly what his programming offers and the steps taken to ensure personal success(es) are worth every moment of time spent (resume building, interview preparation, presentation, etc.). Without Samuel’s guidance, support, knowledge, encouragement, honesty, and support I would still be looking for a pharmaceutical sales position. I feel blessed to have met him & had his guidance. “Once a client always a client”. Although the “career change” guidance and programming is no longer needed…I will remain his client for life (that’s guaranteed). Within the 6 short weeks of programming time…I went from barely understanding the industry to landing a dream position. Without a doubt…I will continue to access Samuel as my mentor and coach throughout my pharmaceutical sales career. I will reach out to him to assure my continued growth & success in this field. He’s the gentleman anyone needs if they are serious about making a career change. There is no doubt everyone succeeds with Samuel! To say that I am extremely grateful is an understatement.

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I decided to invest in Evolve Your Success sales coaching program to better my chances in pharmaceutical sales interview processes. Samuel delivered an excellent customer experience. Due to time constraints on my end, we had to do a “crash” course and the information and tools I received was still invaluable. The passion and knowledge that he integrated into the consults, was everything that I needed to boost my confidence, through proper preparation and key tools for successful interviewing in this very specific niche market. Receiving recorded videos of each training session was especially helpful to be able to be fully present during the session and not have to worry if I missed taking notes on some small but integral piece of information.

I highly recommend this program for any person interested in investing in their own success in sales. If you want better outcomes you must exercise your 5 P’s: Proper Preparation Prevents Poor Performance. Samuel will go above and beyond to help those who are serious about being prepared for success! I have already raved to my colleagues about the evolve your success programs and they all saw first hand how I was positively impacted toward greater results in my sales career!

I was willing to support this new business because I saw the passion behind it. And what I received was a first rate sales program. I am better personally and professionally for it, and you can be too. Invest in your now and reap the fruits forever. 2020 is a great year to start to Evolve Your Success for the decade ahead!

Jennifer Peckman-Rethman

Business Development Kansas City at Carl Zeiss Vision, Inc.

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When I scheduled my initial appointment with Samuel I wasn’t sure what to expect. In my case I needed advice and information to push through not being able to find the right sales job. Samuel tailors his program to your specific goals and puts in place a plan for success. His knowledge about medical sales is very impressive and through his sessions I felt much more confident and prepared to interview and negotiate and ultimately land 2 job offers. I highly recommend meeting with Samuel and start working towards your goals so you can land your dream job!

Stephanie Hernandez

B2B Sales. Medical sales. Financial services

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If you want to progress in your career, I highly recommend working with Samuel. Samuel is a well experienced individual who is passionate and dedicated to get the tools you need. Like many others, I was putting time on searching interview tips online and is nothing compared like the help you would receive from Samuel. He is a great coach who is also assertive to help follow your dream career path. Samuel has been a great help on giving advice and tools on what I needed to work on to land an opportunity I have been waiting for! Again I recommend his system for anybody that wants an opportunity in the medical sales industry!

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Cardiology Account Manager II

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I highly recommend Samuel if you are looking to advance your career. Samuel is very professional, a great coach, and a fabulous mentor. I have learned so much through the Medical Career Builder Program. I honestly wouldn’t have been able to get to where I am in my career without him. I am very happy to say that within a few weeks of starting his program, I was able to land several interviews and have recently accepted an offer working my dream job for Medtronic.

Ryan Pfeiffer

Nuclear Medicine Flex Force & Clinical Education Specialist

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Samuel is a top-notch medical sales leader, mentor and entrepreneur who knows how to get results while teaching others how to develop their own skills to do the same. I started his program as a Nuclear Medicine Technologist and have been hired as a Clinical Specialist at Siemens Healthineers. He works extremely hard, is passionate about his mission and builds success not only in himself or his company, but in the people around him. I’ll recommend this guy any day.

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Surgical Robotics Program Builder 🦾 | Disruptive Technology | Clinical Sales | Capital Sales | Surgical Robotics

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Samuel is a joy to work with! I started the EYS program and we immediately focused in on what I had learned and Samuel was able to help me drill down to what I needed to work on and articulated how to strengthen the weak points in my armor. The Career Builder Program and the wealth of videos, personal 1-1 time, and behind the scenes interviews and workbooks helped me prepare to land the job of dreams.

Many thanks to Samuel and EYS for their help keeping the fire lit and pushing me to be my best

Eric Knotts

Senior Therapeutic Area Specialist (Neuro Psych), Bristol Myers Squibb (BMS)

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When I first embarked on my journey to break into the pharmaceutical sales industry, I feeling getting quite discouraged. I was doing everything I could to really stand out, but only finding that I was able to make it to the first and second round of interviews. A full year and a half passed, with many courses and certifications under my belt, when I finally came across the Medical Sales Podcast by EYS. From here, I heard about the Medical Sales Career Builder and immediately enrolled! I knew that I was doing something right to get me into the interviews, but something was still preventing me from getting past that final interview and this program would give me the perfect opportunity to find out exactly what that was. With Samuel’s coaching and after going through the relevant learning modules and workbooks, I was finally able to master my approach to interviews. It turns out this is exactly what I needed to finally break though and get me the job! I was ecstatic when I got the job offer and I couldn’t have done it without Samuel’s help and support . Thank you Samuel!

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Brett St Clair

Medical Device Sales Representative

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Enrolling in Samuel’s EYS Career Builder program was the best professional decision I have made to date. The knowledge I gained through the program was pivotal in making myself the candidate I desired to be. Beyond the coursework, lessons, calls (etc), the course encourages you to commit to something that is often overlooked – internal reflection. While developing your skillset, network, and overall knowledge of the industry is incredibly important. One of the biggest takeaways for me was taking what you had learned and connecting it to your “why.” Why do you want to work for this company? Why do you want to promote these products? Why is this your passion? This course isn’t structured to land you “just a job,” it is structured to help you land your dream job. Which I was able to accomplish.

I wish everyone had the opportunity to learn from an individual like Samuel. He is someone who I consider as a coach & mentor, but also as a friend. Samuel is relentlessly focused on developing talent while pushing you to grow through positive reinforcement. The EYS program has made an undeniable impact in my life, and for that I give Samuel and the program my respect and highest recommendation.

Tyler Ropp BSN, RN

Senior Mako Product Specialist at Stryker | Robotic Joint Replacement

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I just got a job offer from Stryker! I want to thank Samuel and the Medical Sales Career Builder Program. As an experienced nurse, I knew for quite some time I wanted to apply my experience in a different way within the medical device industry. Before I found the program, I had applied and interviewed for several jobs in the industry but never received an offer. I was doing my best to prepare on my own listening to podcasts, reviewing resources on LinkedIn, and reading up on any interview prep I could find. No matter what I had done, I wasn’t seeing the results I wanted and knew I needed to make a change. I found Samuels’ program on LinkedIn, and after contacting him he got back to me in less than an hour and we started working together just 3 days later. Samuel had a clear process and plan for helping me succeed. He quickly determined my weaknesses and we worked extensively to improve them. I was given the resources and support I needed to get me to where I am today with a job offer from Stryker! Working with Samuel was the best decision I have made in helping acquire my dream job. Thank you again to Samuel and the Career Builder Program!

Alana Rugg MS, CMR

Area Manager, Therapy Awareness. Northeast & Atlantic Coast

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I just got a job offer!!! Thanks to Samuel and the Evolve Your Success Community. Many thanks to the Medical Sales Career Builder, I wouldn’t have been able to do this without them. Before I discovered the program I wasn’t getting as many interviews as I was hoping despite the fact that I was applying to multiple job opportunities. I was searching for job opportunities in my area and just applying to them online and hoping someone would call me. I was becoming frustrated and knew I needed to do something different that would make me standout from other candidates, that’s when I discovered Evolve Your Success. I researched the program and spoke with others who were past clients of the program, I heard nothing but rave reviews. As soon as I joined and spoke with Samuel I knew I made the right decision. Going through the Medical Sales Career Builder program was simple and intuitive. It gave me an exact road map that lead me to my new position! Joining this program was the best decision I have ever made. It taught me so much, brought me out of my comfort zone, and it gave me the confidence I needed to win the job of my dreams. I highly suggest you join the program, do the work, because the skills you learn here and the connections you build are the best in the industry. Now that I have the dream job I’m looking forward to the future and signing up for the next phase of the program, Sales Builder. Thanks again Samuel because of you and the team my career is on the right track!

Judy Gbadebo, M.D.

Physician-Scientist | Medical Affairs | Clinical Education and Research Director at scPharmaceuticals

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I just got a job offer! Samuel’s EYS Medical Sales Career Builder Program was bar none one of the most valuable programs I have ever had the pleasure of joining. As a medical doctor transitioning from clinical medicine into the biopharmaceutical industry, I knew I needed a professional, goal-directed program to guide my way in this bold, new venture. Samuel’s program helped me learn how to leverage my experiences in a unique fashion within the biopharma industry. His program provides an overabundance of resources. From networking and resume writing to interviewing and negotiating, EYS was there at every step of the process. I never felt alone, and was constantly encouraged.

Thank you Samuel for your expertise and creation of the EYS Career Builder Program!

Katherine Stovall

Area Sales Manager

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I’m so glad I went through the Medical Sales Career Builder program! I received amazing guidance and coaching that gave me the exact steps I needed to land my new position. I would definitely recommend going through the program to anyone wanting to break into the industry like me!

Kristina Stewart

I connect prescribers with treatment solutions for Migraines and Tardive Dyskinesia

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After recently migrating to the US, I was eager to re-start my career in Pharmaceutical Sales. I quickly realized that I would need an experienced industry professional to guide me on this journey. Samuel and the EYS Career Builder Program exceeded my expectations. Having Samuel as my coach and mentor, enabled me to package my skills and experience in an effective and concise way that translated well in my interviews. I landed my new role! Thank you Samuel and your team for helping me realize my potential.

DH Williams

Specialty Brain Disease Sales Professional | Expertise Connection Builder| Fitness Educator

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I was having such a challenging time trying to land a dream job in the medical sales world. I thought I was doing everything I could to make this happen however after 5 months I became burnt out and unmotivated.

I wasn’t sure what I was going to do. I had reached out and connected with over 1000 connections on LinkedIn and to my surprise, I ran into someone from my hometown who had much success in the field. He and I discussed the issues I was having and that’s when he told me about Samuel and his program.

I decided to give the program a try and signed up on June 2nd of this year. Within hours and days of signing up, I became very fascinated with what I was learning. The program made so much sense and helped me to become lazer like focused on what I wasn’t doing earlier to become successful and what I could do to make this happen.

July 2nd of 2021 I received an offer!

Not only was it from the specific company I was most interested in but also, it was in the specific city I was wanting to move to – clear across the east to the west coast.

Samuel and his program have truly changed my life! With his guidance including a weekly online module, live class and guest speakers in the field – just to name a few – anyone can succeed to land the medical sales position job of their dream!

Nicholas Andrews

Territory Manager, Diabetes – Atlanta South / Proven Sales Professional with an Unwavering Commitment to the Service of Others.

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Samuel and his team at Evolve Your Success are game changers for professionals who are looking to present themselves at their best. I knew the competition for a career in the medical sales arena is immense and I needed to prepare myself to standout amongst all the other candidates vying for the same positions as I was. Sam will tell you I am very self aware of my strengths and weaknesses and I am very comfortable about speaking on what I know but not so much talking about myself. Enrolling in the Medical Sales Career Builder Program offered a holistic approach of how to represent my skills and attributes to hiring managers all awhile staying true to myself as I told my story. When you commit to the process the results happen, I landed a perfect role with the #1 medical device company in the world with no prior medical sales experience. You owe it to yourself and your career to join Evolve Your Success !!

Jeffrey Koshy

Supply Chain and Procurement Enthusiast | Sales Professional | Web Developer

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The journey of breaking into medical sales can be much longer and harder than many expect. One thing I learned from Samuel is that networking goes a long way into landing a job in medical sales. They also helped me get better at my interview skills and answer questions more genuinely.

Zachariah C.

Therapeutic Sales Specialist @ Leo Pharma

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Prior to enlisting Samuel’s services I was a “middle of the pack” rep at Primus. Not the worst, but far from the best. Up to that point I thought I had all of the tools necessary to get into President’s Club, but my results were showing otherwise.

The missing ingredient that Samuel has given me is fire. The fire to go out everyday and work my territory to its max. The fire to use my downtime at home to prep & prepare for the day ahead. Evolve You Success was the ignition I needed to help realize the kind of rep I am, what my unique personality brings to the table, and how to leverage the sum of these parts to the maximum.

When I began Samuel’s program in September of 2021 I was ranked 12th out of 40 reps, by the end of the year I finished in 6th place; comfortably in President’s Club. I also ended 1st nationally for our brand Promiseb which garnered me another award.

For those on the fence I strongly recommend making the investment. I have easily recouped the cost not only in the awards I won but the increased bonuses that have come along with it already.

Cody Mathis

Interventional Imaging, Siemens Healthineers | Technology Educator | Product Specialist | Outdoor Enthusiast | Winemaker | Lets Connect!

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Samuel’s Evolve Your Success program has directly contributed to my personal success, and I recommend it to anyone who will listen.

Although I was an active scroller and 👍 on LinkedIn, I wasn’t a content creator and my profile read like a resume with an outdated picture. During Samuel’s coaching and education sessions, my profile was rebranded to look more appropriate to my audience as a sales professional. With Samuel’s help, I became comfortable engaging with others with comments and creating meaningful content.

The results are in! The EYS program has helped take my LinkedIn voice outside of my company and straight to my customers. Since starting EYS, my connections and followers have doubled and my profile views skyrocket with new content. One meaningful LinkedIn interaction recently has assisted in securing a multimillion-dollar project and I’m confident there will be more! 😊

Duston Harper

Teaching high performers to achieve prosperity through mindset and accountability

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Samuel is an amazing coach and mentor to me. He has elite experience in the medical device sales industry and I love seeing his passion helping people break into medical device. I personally worked with Samuel on personal branding for a period of over 6 months.

From start to finish, he was always very structured and held me accountable weekly. The Linkedin and mindset portion of his course really helped me. Even though I already have had success in sales at multiple industries, taking Samuel’s course helped me take things to the next level! Highly recommend others doing it.

Brad Osterberg

Sales Representative for Medtronic

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I just accepted a Clinical Specialist Pain Intervention Sales Rep job offer! I want to thank the Medical Sales Career Builder; utilizing this program gave me the exact edge I needed to get the position. I had attained many interviews for many different medical sales roles, but I could never get past the 1st one. I listening to podcasts, to gain any knowledge of getting into the industry. This is how I found Samuel’s program and The Medical Sales Podcast.

The second I found out what the program entailed I was ready to get started immediately. I knew it was going to be one of the most promising investments I’ve ever made. After 5 hard weeks of applying the necessary steps from the MSCB program, I succeeded in getting my dream job! The resources, social media learning and boosted confidence gave me exactly what I needed to land an interview quickly and promote my most authentic self and communicate my story and skill sets effectively to the recruiters and hiring managers.

Whether you have experience or not in the industry, the MSCB gives you the resources to feel confident, prepared and more than ready for every step of the interview process. In order to get the best outcome out of this and not short yourself, be sure to put your effort into it. I will definitely be utilizing the knowledge and confidence I have gained for the rest of my career. Thank you again to Samuel and the team for helping me find my confidence and changing my career trajectory!

Johan Arango

Analytical Filter & Diagnostic Specialty Materials / Lab Filtration Distribution

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I just accepted a Technical Sales Associate job offer! I want to thank the Medical Sales Career Builder; The MSCB program not only introduced me into the medical device industry but gave me in depth knowledge of what top companies want to see in me and how to be an asset to their organization.

I did not have sales experience and I had no idea what companies to look for, what industries to look into, or where to start to get a medical sales position. I also did not know how to interview or even get to the interview stage. One day I went on Spotify and found The Medical Sales Podcast, talked to the team and joined the program. In addition to getting every single resource a person needs to get a medical sales position, I also learned how to effectively tell my story and navigated the interview sequence.

The MSCB program not only comes with resources but you are also able to join a community of like-minded medical sales reps. The investment is totally worth it but it requires a constant effort. The knowledge and skills I have learned here are skills I will rely on for the rest of my sales career. I want to thank the MSCB team for all their time, support and life changing experience.

Nicole Casten

Clinical Outreach for Mental Health at Newport Healthcare

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Samuel is great in helping me navigate with the following areas in my new territory
Day to day routines with routing, High Communication/Dropping off different materials, Identifying a product per provider, Creating the Organization of what stage people are in and what resources to use to move them to the next stage. Rithm helped me streamline where I am going in my day Kolbe Assessment helped, to show me who I am, letting me know I can use fact finding to my benefit. Making me come up with how to handle objections. I would highly recommend this program to anyone looking to either get into medical sales or further their career and jumpstart

Devin Menges

Medical Device Rep – Spine

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When I started working in orthotics and prosthetics in December 2021, it was my first ever job in medical sales. I knew I needed to find resources to make me a more effective rep. I was spending a lot of time driving, so I searched for medical sales podcasts I could listen to between driving to my accounts. I found Samuel’s “Medical Sales Podcast,” and there was so much value in every episode. He advertised his “Evolve Your Success” program for people that wanted to break into medical sales or take their careers to the next level. After listening to a few episodes, this was a no-brainer for me. Working with Samuel over the last three months, I have become a more confident, efficient, and organized sales rep and developed a better mindset. I’ve developed key relationships with his help, which ultimately landed me an opportunity as a spine rep which he is now helping develop me in this new role. I can’t recommend Samuel enough. I’m grateful I found him and his podcast because It has genuinely evolved my success.

Sara Kate Harbarger

Medical Supplies Sales Representative

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I just accepted a Medical Supplies Sales Rep job offer! I want to thank the Medical Sales Career Builder; this wouldn’t have been possible without them! Before enrolling in the Medical Sales Career Builder, I knew I had skills that could translate into the Healthcare industry, but I didn’t know where to begin in terms of which field was the right fit for me. I had applied to several roles and could not get past the ATS and I did not know how to tell my story.

I was hesitant to invest into the MSCB program, but as I was networking with medical sales reps and discussing the podcasts I’d been listening to (Samuel’s Podcast) — I made the connection with one of the sales reps that recommended Samuel’s program, as he was using it to build is LinkedIn Brand.

After joining the MSCB program, it took just under 3 months to land my dream job! The biggest impact the program had during my job search was it held me accountable. The MSCB program is a well-oiled machine and it holds you accountable to take every step in order to be prepared & get your dream job. In addition, it gave me the resources and the feedback to communicate the right message to sales reps, recruiters & hiring managers to get the job.

If you’re interested in joining the Healthcare sales industry but don’t know where to start or if you’re not making any progress with securing interviews, this program is for you! If you put your all into the program, you’ll see the results — but you have to show up and be ready to do the work. There are many resources I used during the program that I will continue to reference and utilize to succeed & grow in my career as a sales rep. I’m incredibly thankful that I found this program and took the leap to make such a large career pivot — I couldn’t have done it without their resources and motivation!

Akshaya Musick, MBA